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    With one game to go.

    Conference A
    Team Home SF Home QF QF Play-off
    Glasgow 3 There There N/A
    Munster Need
    Slip-ups
    There There N/A
    Connacht N/A N/A There N/A
    Cardiff N/A N/A N/A Need to
    win
    Ospreys N/A N/A N/A Need not
    to lose
    Conference B
    Team Home SF Home QF QF Play-off
    Leinster There N/A N/A N/A
    Ulster N/A There N/A N/A
    Treviso N/A N/A 5 4
    Edinburgh N/A N/A Need a
    Slip-up
    5
    Llanelli N/A N/A Need
    Slip-ups
    Need
    Slip-ups
    Last edited by Piquet; 14th-April-2019, 15:15.

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      The Ulster, Treviso, Edinburgh race to the end is an interesting one and could well impact us. Treviso needs a result tonigt which could haunt us. Edinburgh needs a result next week against Glasgow which helps us.

      Also interesting is to look at what's best for the country. For Ireland it would be best next week if Leinster gives the victory to Ulster and we let Connacht win. For Scotland it would be best if Glasgow lets Edinburgh win. This will never happen but it's an interesting take on the play-off spots.

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        Originally posted by Chrizzzie View Post
        The Ulster, Treviso, Edinburgh race to the end is an interesting one and could well impact us. Treviso needs a result tonigt which could haunt us. Edinburgh needs a result next week against Glasgow which helps us.

        Also interesting is to look at what's best for the country. For Ireland it would be best next week if Leinster gives the victory to Ulster and we let Connacht win. For Scotland it would be best if Glasgow lets Edinburgh win. This will never happen but it's an interesting take on the play-off spots.
        Munster Connacht in 2 weeks could be a "dead rubber" from Connacht's point of view if they lock up 3rd tomorrow. It is in the interest of both Munster and Ulster that Leinster actually put a shift in v Glasgow. Would mean that Glasgow can't lock up 1st/fall behind Munster after this weekend and from an Ulster point of view would mean Glasgow would not down tools v Edinburgh. I agree the latter is unlikely given Glasgow are 0-2 v Edinburgh this season. Ulster likely to be facing a Leinster reserve side in 2 weeks at home, no excuses for not winning that.

        There is the additional factor of conference positioning for next season with Connacht and Ulster in a race to avoid being Ireland 4 and put into Conference A which on paper looks harder than B.
        Conference A Conference B
        Ireland 1 Leinster 74 Ireland 2 Munster 68
        Ireland 4 Ulster 54 Ireland 3 Connacht 56
        Wales 2 Ospreys 49 Wales 1 Cardiff Blues 52
        Wales 3 Scarlets 45 Wales 4 Dragons 21
        Scotland 1 Glasgow 71 Scotland 2 Edinburgh 51
        Italy 2 Zebre 19 Italy 1 Benetton 52
        South Africa 1 Cheetahs 36 South Africa 2 Southern Kings 22
        Last edited by neill_m; 12th-April-2019, 07:52.

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          So you're saying that Munster's and Ulster's faith is in Leinster's hands tomorrow? They better deliver tomorrow or we come to haunt them.

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            Originally posted by Chrizzzie View Post
            So you're saying that Munster's and Ulster's faith is in Leinster's hands tomorrow? They better deliver tomorrow or we come to haunt them.
            A Leinster win would benefit both sides. To be fair to them they won their conference early and don't have to play the 1s, but they have not played great v Edinburgh or Benetton and need a good runout before Toulouse next week.

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              The reality is that Leinster, Munster and Glasgow are ahead of the other teams. Leinster are 20 points ahead in their conference and have the luxury of being able to rest players as needed. If Glasgow were in Leinster conference then they would only be 3 points behind and Leinster would be in same situation we are in having to win to ensure home semi. Next year the conference change will work in our favour and with non availability due to world cup may not be a bad thing.

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                Originally posted by Redcafe1 View Post
                The reality is that Leinster, Munster and Glasgow are ahead of the other teams. Leinster are 20 points ahead in their conference and have the luxury of being able to rest players as needed. If Glasgow were in Leinster conference then they would only be 3 points behind and Leinster would be in same situation we are in having to win to ensure home semi. Next year the conference change will work in our favour and with non availability due to world cup may not be a bad thing.
                I think it will actually work in favor of the Welsh teams. Their internationals do not make a big impact at club level so therefore they will also not be badly missed either.

                It's also interesting to see what's going to happen with the Kings. Now they're in private hands it looks like they will increase their player salary next year which would make them a much harder opponent in their conference.

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                  I mix the threads, my mind is at the end...
                  Last edited by JN.Allezdax.com; 12th-April-2019, 12:43.
                  "To be energetic and self-sufficing is to be happy; but while one desire remains in the heart happiness may not come there. For to desire is to be incomplete: it is the badge of dependence, the signal of unhappiness, and to be freed from that is to be freed from every fetter that can possibly be forged." (James Stephens, Deirdre)

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                    Originally posted by neill_m View Post

                    A Leinster win would benefit both sides. To be fair to them they won their conference early and don't have to play the 1s, but they have not played great v Edinburgh or Benetton and need a good runout before Toulouse next week.
                    They didn't play great against Ulster either, but got away with it. I presume a few lads will get the chance to blow away the cobwebs against Glasgow.

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                      Pity we have such a complicated end of season.
                      Leinster won't propose the same opposition to the Warriors tonight, and not sure the Scots won't benefit from the Dubliners' gifts. But next week, they will receive Embra who will probably defend the third place they will possibly gain tonight receiving Ulster. I would not bet on an Edinburgh victory in Scotstoun next week on the field of Warriors who were only beaten by the Saries at home and who will know they could lose their first place at the last time in such an occasion, if the would let Embra beat them.
                      Pity, because if the Westies do not spoil their chance tonight against the Blues, they won't have anything to win in two weeks in TP, and the chances for us to get 5 points in that occasion will be huge.
                      If Connacht do what is expected tomorrow, the third place of our pool will be given tho the winner between strong at home Blues and Ospreys returning from hellafter their last victory against Cheetahs and the vry possible win against the Kings tonight.
                      In the pool B, after having benefited fro the Leinster' gifts who will have killed the Ulster chances in two weeks (EPRC QF and then B-team giving 2 points to the italian team a week later), they will play a A'-team Munster crew tonight and will go to demobilized Zebras next week... They can honnestly get 8 and even 10 points allowing them a huge surprising and not undeserved second place in their pool with 60-62points, because Ulster AND Embra cannot finish both in front of them. Ulster will receive Leinster in the last day, but I don't see them winning in Endinburgh tonight. Tomorrow, Embra and Ulster could be 55/56 and 54/55 in case of a scottish win, or 51/52 and 58/59 in case of a Red Hand victory. And in two weeks, they will go to Glasgo (Embra) and receive Leinster (Ulster).
                      Anyway, beyond all chauvinism, this end of eason is really full of suspense with Benetton-Munster, Edinburgh-Ulster, Connacht-Blues, Warriors-Edinburgh, Munster-Connacht, Blues-Ospreys, Ulster-Leinster, Zebras-Benetton will all concern teams that are in the run for the best places of both pools. All the games look like a round 16th.
                      "To be energetic and self-sufficing is to be happy; but while one desire remains in the heart happiness may not come there. For to desire is to be incomplete: it is the badge of dependence, the signal of unhappiness, and to be freed from that is to be freed from every fetter that can possibly be forged." (James Stephens, Deirdre)

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                        So in B, Leinster and Ulster have locked up top 2. Benetton still in good shape to get 3rd (BP win v Zebre locks it) Edinburgh now looking over their shoulder with Scarlets still live for 4th.

                        In A the race for top spot is on like Donkey Kong, with Glasgow needing a win in the RDS to stay top. 3 horse race for 3rd now after Ospreys getting max points in South Africa although Connacht could secure it on Sat.

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                        Last edited by neill_m; 12th-April-2019, 22:32.

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                          Can't see that Leinster team holding out against Glasgow, I'm sorry to say.
                          Munster – Champions of Europe 2006, 2008, 2019.

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                            Originally posted by rathbaner View Post
                            Can't see that Leinster team holding out against Glasgow, I'm sorry to say.
                            Leinster -7 in handicap.

                            Gwan theDublin4StutteringConveyorBelters



                            Last edited by AdolphusGrigson; 13th-April-2019, 07:42.
                            ​​​​​​#GiveLeinsterTheHCupNow

                            Originally Posted by mr chips
                            AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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                              I really think the team to avoid for as long as possible are Ulster so pleased they secured their home QF last night, and in some style. Really hope Connacht can get the win against Cardiff today.

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                                Originally posted by the plastic paddy View Post
                                I really think the team to avoid for as long as possible are Ulster so pleased they secured their home QF last night, and in some style. Really hope Connacht can get the win against Cardiff today.
                                Cracking performance from Ulster. They looked awesome. Stockdale limping off at the end holding his hamstring though, might hinder them.
                                Munster – Champions of Europe 2006, 2008, 2019.

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