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RCC G4) STADE FRANCAIS v MUNSTER. Sky Sports. 9th January 2016 16:45

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    RCC G4) STADE FRANCAIS v MUNSTER. Sky Sports. 9th January 2016 16:45

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    Plenty to play for in this pool in spite of our two losses. Beat the lard out of Stade twice and we are looking good for a knockout spot.

    A game to look forward to! Build upon the lessons learned over the last month.
    I am the million man.

    We need to win this one.
    The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves


      Stade came from behind with a late try to pip Toulouse by a point tonight. Showed great determination not to lose at home.

      Maybe their lowly league position will make them focus on the domestic competition. I wouldn't count on it.

      Plisson kicked poorly off the tee.
      Last edited by Late try; 3rd-January-2016, 20:56.


        Originally posted by The Word Is Born View Post
        We need to win this one.
        A bit of an understatement!


          Just saw the Stade Français vs Stade Toulousain match that has just finished. Interestingly SF, who were being outplayed quite comprehensively by ST in the first half and were at risk of not being able to get back into the play offs of the Top14 if they lost tonight (they were in 12th position and thus suffering more defeats than us), won by the skin of their teeth thanks to a dubious try (as there was no clear footage of grounding behind the line and the video ref was being asked question 2) in the last 2 minutes! A bit similar to what we saw yesterday with Munster (although we haven't come close to scoring tries lately). In a way their win is probably good news for us as they would have put a lot more into the next 2 weeks if they had no chance of getting back into the Top14 play offs. Having said this, I didn't realize they had signed so many top notch internationals. What would we give to have Will Genia right now (with Murray seemingly injured and certainly not fit and the other SHs so far from the required level), or Morne Steyn as cover at out half, or Paul Williams (Samoan international in the centre). This team, whilst struggling, is absolutely packed with quality internationals such as Parisse, Papé, W Alberts (SA flanker), Lakafia (French international flanker), Slimani (up and coming French prop), Hugo Bonneval (scored a great individual try tonight)... and many others. Scary thought that we need to beat them twice in two weeks.

          If we could somehow win in Paris (don't know how with the sterile and inconclusive attack we have) next Saturday, I'm pretty sure they'd send a B side (not a sign of weakness per se) to Thomond as they have a tough tough list of fixtures to work their way back up the Top14 ladder.

          Don't know if I should be feeling good or not about their performance tonight after all!??
          Last edited by Junster2; 3rd-January-2016, 21:15.


            They were penalized quite a lot in the scrum due to both their SA (Hinke Van der Merwe) and Aussie (Paul Alo-Emile) props boring in and collapsing scrums regularly. But when they brought on Slimani they started winning some crucial scrums. They also lost a couple of line outs. Seems like we could put them under pressure in the set pieces although they have some serious lineout operators in Papé, Flanquart and Parisse.


              They also have two huge SA and Aussie second rows so I don't think we can have the upper hand in the line out, especially considering the amount of poor line out throws by Scannell (in the last couple of weeks) and also Sherry last week.


                We'll need to come up with something better than what we produced in Ulster to win against this side as even though SF have been struggling they just managed to beat the best Top14 side at the moment without playing that well...


                  Yes indeed, if we lose next Saturday it would take a miracle to qualify! Wait a minute, wasn't that our trademark in the HCup!? Yes but with a different team and in a different competition.

                  Originally posted by glorob View Post
                  A bit of an understatement!


                    If we could win this it would be the shock of the weekend.
                    Munster – Champions of Europe 2006, 2008, 2020.


                      I've no expectation of a win given where we're coming from. I'd like to see a really solid set piece, a stingy defence, some bullocking carries in the pack and some ferocious rucking. I'd quite like to see a punch up too, but Christmas has been and gone. Low errors, high passion and a bit of ferocity and I'll be happy whatever the score.
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                        Stade Français stun Toulouse
                        Date published: January 4 2016
                        Stade Français stunned Toulouse with a try by Paul Williams three minutes from time to lift their season with an 18-17 victory.

                        The champions much-needed win sees them remain well down the bottom of the table in 11th place, but accumulate vital points to potentially kickstart their campaign.

                        Alexis Palisson opened the scoring for the visitors in the sixth minute after good work from Maxime Médard, but Toulouse were denied a second score by the TMO only five minutes later.

                        Sébastien Bézy, one of five uncapped players called up by new France head coach Guy Novès this week, slotted a penalty not long after to make it 0-8.

                        Jules Plisson hit back for Stade Français, with the aid of the post, for his first penalty not long after.

                        Both sides failed to add more points before half-time as Toulouse took a five-point lead into the break.

                        Stade Français were hit with the loss of Djibril Camara to injury not long after the interval prior to Bézy adding a second penalty.

                        Plisson responded five minutes later to close the gap, before the hosts took the lead for the first time.

                        Hugo Bonneval's kick-chase evaded the Toulouse defence for the full-back to score his side's first try on 62 minutes, converted by Plisson to make it 13-11.

                        Two penalties from Bézy within five minutes however swung the advantage back Toulouse's way, as they looked set to return to first place in the Top 14.

                        Stade Français had other ideas. Williams' dramatic finish in the corner, confirmed after multiple replays by the TMO, put the hosts ahead once more only by a single point after Plisson's missed conversion, as Toulouse were unable to come up with the winning points.

                        The scorers:

                        For Stade Français:
                        Tries: Bonneval, Williams
                        Cos: Plisson
                        Pens: Plisson 2

                        For Toulouse:
                        Tries: Palisson
                        Pens: Bézy 4

                        Stade Français: 15 Hugo Bonneval, 14 Jérémy Sinzelle, 13 Paul Williams, 12 Jonathan Danty, 11 Djibril Camara, 10 Jules Plisson, 9 Will Genia, 8 Sergio Parisse, 7 Jono Ross, 6 Antoine Burban, 5 Pascal Papé, 4 Hugh Pyle, 3 Paul Alo-Emile, 2 Laurent Sempere, 1 Heinke van der Merwe
                        Replacements: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Emmanuel Fresina, 18 Paul Gabrillagues, 19 Mathieu Ugena, 20 Julien Dupuy, 21 Morné Steyn, 22 Waisale Nayacalevu, 23 Rabah Slimani

                        Toulouse: 15 Maxime Médard, 14 Vincent Clerc, 13 Gaël Fickou, 12 Toby Flood, 11 Alexis Palisson, 10 Jean-Marc Doussain, 9 Sébastien Bézy, 8 Imanol Harinordoquy, 7 Louis Picamoles, 6 Thierry Dusautoir, 5 Patricio Albacete, 4 Yoann Maestri, 3 Census Johnston, 2 Christopher Tolofua, 1 Vasil Kakovin
                        Replacements: 16 Julien Marchand, 17 Cyril Baille, 18 Dorian Aldegheri, 19 Joe Tekori, 20 Yacouba Camara, 21 Gillian Galan, 22 Florian Fritz, 23 Clément Poitrenaud

                        Referee: Laurent Cardona
                        I am the million man.


                          The champions much-needed win sees them remain well down the bottom of the table in 11th place, but accumulate vital points to potentially kickstart their campaign.
                          Good or bad omen? I'm thinking good overall in terms of their level of interest in Europe vs domestic.


                            I see blind faith and optimism has returned.

                            I cannot see how we can secure a victory in both of these games with our ineffective attack and recent inability to score tries.

                            3 all last month was it?

                            We have improved our defence, our set piece (scrums, lineouts, exits etc) is good overall - lineout wasn't great at times last weekend - but our use of the ball, our attack, it is quite poor to be fair.


                              For those that didn't see it a ray of hope from ROG

                              Stade lost a bad game to Oyonnax at the weekend, again underlining that without Sergio Parisse, they are not the same team.
                              The Stade game will all come down to attitude. Munster’s back is pinned to the wall now.
                              And Stade might have to prioritise getting into the Top 14 play-offs, so they mightn’t have two eyes on Europe.
                              Watch for the team news next week — it’ll be very interesting to see what XVGonzalo Quesada puts out, and where their head is at. If you wanted to play a team in France at the moment, it’sprobably Stade.

                              Obviously written before the ST victory but from what ROG indicates, the league away win against ST will probably be more welcome than a win in Europe.
                              Last edited by rathbaner; 4th-January-2016, 10:54.
                              Munster – Champions of Europe 2006, 2008, 2020.