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    Is Joe Schmidt interfering with the Provincial selections ?

    Having seen Munster's misfiring performance yesterday, and now Leinster's similarly disjointed performance today, it cannot go unnoticed that Munster played Ulster last week without 7 of yesterday's starters, and Leinster similarly made 10 changes to last week's match against the Ospreys.

    We have seen time and again over the years, whether it is after the AIs or after the 6N, the provinces need a high intensity game to get the team working together before the resumption of the pool matches or the QF, to squeeze the errors out, and get up to pace. Indeed where they haven't had that opportunity, it usually resulted in a poor HC performance.

    Considering Munster and Leinster left so many of their returning internationals on the sidelines, the question has to be asked whether this came from Joe Schmidt ?

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    Originally posted by Point View Post
    Having seen Munster's misfiring performance yesterday, and now Leinster's similarly disjointed performance today, it cannot go unnoticed that Munster played Ulster last week without 7 of yesterday's starters, and Leinster similarly made 10 changes to last week's match against the Ospreys.

    We have seen time and again over the years, whether it is after the AIs or after the 6N, the provinces need a high intensity game to get the team working together before the resumption of the pool matches or the QF, to squeeze the errors out, and get up to pace. Indeed where they haven't had that opportunity, it usually resulted in a poor HC performance.

    Considering Munster and Leinster left so many of their returning internationals on the sidelines, the question has to be asked whether this came from Joe Schmidt ?
    Its from the IRFU Player Management Programme.

    Robbie Henshaw for example was told he wouldn't have played this week or next week had he been fit.
    I always knew Madigan was a closet Scrum Half. Ignore All things that suggest Continuity.

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      #3
      You could be right but maybe the lads came back shattered and the clubs wanted to rest them for Europe ?

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        #4
        Is it not also likely that after some bruising AI's that coaches might feel that well rested players will be more useful than battered and bruised players?

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          #5
          Lets remember that Munster and Leinster are not independent clubs and the salaries of the Irish players are funded centrally

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            #6
            Joe and Feek in the lobby of the Clarion prematch. IMHO he shouldn't have been there, a distraction for the players at best.
            "We are going to hope to keep improving the environment in Munster. It’s about improving and setting standards where players and coaches can improve. Hopefully we can offer that more than just money.” Johann Van Graan 20/12/2017

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              #7
              Originally posted by FORWARD.... View Post
              Joe and Feek in the lobby of the Clarion prematch. IMHO he shouldn't have been there, a distraction for the players at best.
              Before I jump down your throat, are you saying you don't think he should be 1.in the Clarion (where the players were presumably) , or 2.at the game??
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                #8
                Jump away

                I have absolutely no problem with Joe attending the game and I'd be disappointed were he not there. But he was downstairs in the lobby of the Clarion, shaking hands with players as they were walking through to the room upstairs the players use. If he was officially there I'd assume he and Feek would have been upstairs.
                "We are going to hope to keep improving the environment in Munster. It’s about improving and setting standards where players and coaches can improve. Hopefully we can offer that more than just money.” Johann Van Graan 20/12/2017

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                  #9
                  It was puzzling to see the selections for the Ulster game.

                  Traditionally we did have the H Cup team back together and out for a tough game pre return to Europe.... It was often a tough inter pro too.

                  I do believe it made a difference

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Corcíoch View Post
                    It was puzzling to see the selections for the Ulster game.

                    Traditionally we did have the H Cup team back together and out for a tough game pre return to Europe.... It was often a tough inter pro too.

                    I do believe it made a difference
                    After watching Quins you'd wonder about this player management programme.

                    If a player is visibly knackered that's one thing. But if he's playing well personally I think they should continue playing.
                    I always knew Madigan was a closet Scrum Half. Ignore All things that suggest Continuity.

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                      #11
                      It seems provincial success has been compromised in favour of building for the World Cup. Ops for everyone and plenty of rest for the likely 31.

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                        #12
                        The provinces have interfered with clubs selection policies for years, usually to indifference from anyone outside the club game.
                        A lion online, a lamb at home.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Point View Post
                          Having seen Munster's misfiring performance yesterday, and now Leinster's similarly disjointed performance today, it cannot go unnoticed that Munster played Ulster last week without 7 of yesterday's starters, and Leinster similarly made 10 changes to last week's match against the Ospreys.

                          We have seen time and again over the years, whether it is after the AIs or after the 6N, the provinces need a high intensity game to get the team working together before the resumption of the pool matches or the QF, to squeeze the errors out, and get up to pace. Indeed where they haven't had that opportunity, it usually resulted in a poor HC performance.

                          Considering Munster and Leinster left so many of their returning internationals on the sidelines, the question has to be asked whether this came from Joe Schmidt ?
                          Dunno about the respective Munster line-ups at this stage last season but Leinster had to make a similar number of changes at the time last year before they hammered Northampton, so not sure it's really the issue.

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