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    13/14 Munster's Number 8

    Many of the positions on the pitch are sewn up, but Munster have 4 high-class options in the 8 position and you could make arguments for all of them. Coughlan, a clever grafter with footballing skills honed while playing 7s who's comfortable running out wide or in the tight. Stander, pacy, powerful and a try-scorer. O'Mahony, the latest Irish 8, a line-out option whose aggressive running and canny work at the ruck help him to punch above his weight. And Butler, the best footballer of the lot, another line-out specialist who's quick and an excellent technical tackler.

    So who's it going to be?

    #2
    JJ
    Gwan Joe!!

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      #3
      Tough to decide and frankly a great place to be. I think we'll see a lot of chopping and changing to start with to find the player with the best form abd then we'll srtick with them until Ireland come a callin' (or come a Coughlan... ha ha).
      I'd like to see Butler push on but has plateued a bit and may have to make do with Rabo games while waiting for The international callups. 6 & 8 will probably be Stander and POM, although who goes where is debatable. I still think there's Miles and miles left on the clock for Coughlan and if Paulie's going to be wrapped in cotton wool and POM man managed from D4, his leadership and game management are crucial.
      A Fit again HCup registered Stander will be a different prospect this year and I think he'll start the season and set the leage alight.

      I'll go with a Back line of 6 - POM, 7 - TOD, 8 - Stander to start with and take it from there.
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        #4
        Originally posted by deadlyBuzz View Post
        Tough to decide and frankly a great place to be. I think we'll see a lot of chopping and changing to start with to find the player with the best form abd then we'll srtick with them until Ireland come a callin' (or come a Coughlan... ha ha).
        I'd like to see Butler push on but has plateued a bit and may have to make do with Rabo games while waiting for The international callups. 6 & 8 will probably be Stander and POM, although who goes where is debatable. I still think there's Miles and miles left on the clock for Coughlan and if Paulie's going to be wrapped in cotton wool and POM man managed from D4, his leadership and game management are crucial.
        A Fit again HCup registered Stander will be a different prospect this year and I think he'll start the season and set the leage alight.

        I'll go with a Back line of 6 - POM, 7 - TOD, 8 - Stander to start with and take it from there.
        Coughlan, Butler and Stander will all be available from the start of the season so the first few weeks will be interesting. Coughlan and Butler are more rounded rugby players but Stander has some serious bosh. Like you, I think that will be telling in the Pro12, though it mightn't be so effective at H Cup level.

        More long-term, Munster have 3 number 8s under the age of 24 and another two U20s internationals in the academy in Ryan Murphy and Jack O'Donoghue. Someone is going to have to leave.

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          #5
          Originally posted by HenryFitz View Post
          Coughlan, Butler and Stander will all be available from the start of the season so the first few weeks will be interesting. Coughlan and Butler are more rounded rugby players but Stander has some serious bosh. Like you, I think that will be telling in the Pro12, though it mightn't be so effective at H Cup level.

          More long-term, Munster have 3 number 8s under the age of 24 and another two U20s internationals in the academy in Ryan Murphy and Jack O'Donoghue. Someone is going to have to leave.
          Munster Rugby could always stage a pay per view 'last man standing' at Christmas.
          Gwan Joe!!

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            #6
            I'd like to see O'Mahony make a fist of it at 8. I find when he's at 6 he can be relatively quiet for prolonged periods of time before making a couple of big interventions (this was the model for his two best games from last season, against France and Quins). That's not bad by any means, but his tackle count routinely pales in comparison to his back row partners, notably O'Donnell and O'Brien, who, admittedly, are tackling machines, and he just seems more peripheral there than he does at 8. I really enjoyed seeing him there over the summer in the North America tour, because he took on a more central role, in particular in terms of carrying the ball. He didn't do much in the way of offloading in those games, but we know he has the hands to, so it'd be good to see him get more opportunities in that position.

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              #7
              Have yee forgotton about Sean Dougal... He did start away to Racing last year until got injured so looks like Penney has good time for him...It could be TOD, Dougall, POM

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                #8
                DOC2 is also in the mix so you could see a backrow of DOC2 at blindside, TOD at openside and POM at no. 8 if Munster want to increase their physicality.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dropkick View Post
                  DOC2 is also in the mix so you could see a backrow of DOC2 at blindside, TOD at openside and POM at no. 8 if Munster want to increase their physicality.
                  I'd rather see DOC2 move into the row. He's a bigger unit than Billy Holland now and is a serious line-out operator.

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                    #10
                    DOCII is undersized for lock at the highest level. Butler also undersized.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bayern View Post
                      DOCII is undersized for lock at the highest level. Butler also undersized.
                      We're not discussing international level. The lads will put on a fair bit of bulk this pre-season, and Dave came back quite a bit bigger after his mid season injury last season.

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                        #12
                        +1

                        I'll go with a Back line of 6 - POM, 7 - TOD, 8 - Stander to start with and take it from there.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by HenryFitz View Post
                          We're not discussing international level. The lads will put on a fair bit of bulk this pre-season, and Dave came back quite a bit bigger after his mid season injury last season.
                          isnt the goal to have a player of international quality at every position?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bayern View Post
                            isnt the goal to have a player of international quality at every position?
                            Pathetic.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bayern View Post
                              isnt the goal to have a player of international quality at every position?
                              Yep. But young forwards don't magically graduate to physical readiness for international rugby. It takes a few years conditioning. There's nothing disqualifying them from playing provincial rugby in the meantime.

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