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  • Keyop
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    Originally posted by Thomond78 View Post
    Shure, back when Shannon were any good, they never had backs, only 6 skinnier, faster forwards and a kicker. ;)

    Andrew was more than a kicker to be fair, though he was an excellent kicker. A handy fullback/winger in John Lacey, John O'Neill, Brian Roche, Billy O'Shea, Pat Murray- an excellent and much much underated fullback and sometimes centre. Jim Galvin, Alan McGrath, Rhys Ellison, Paul McMahon- ... not bad for backs to be fair...Ellison and McMahon were an excellent centre partnership, pity that Paul finished too soon due to injury.

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  • Thomond78
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    Originally posted by Keyop View Post
    It will come as an almighty shock to Andrew Thompson that he is a former Shannon Forward.
    Shure, back when Shannon were any good, they never had backs, only 6 skinnier, faster forwards and a kicker. ;)

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  • Keyop
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    Originally posted by PARISHMAN1970 View Post
    Interview with him on his role in the PGC in Today's Examiner

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/r...er-302397.html
    It will come as an almighty shock to Andrew Thompson that he is a former Shannon Forward.

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  • PARISHMAN1970
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    Interview with him on his role in the PGC in Today's Examiner

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/r...er-302397.html

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  • jeepers
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    Originally posted by overthehillprop View Post
    does that make him twice as good as his Munster counterpart given the million euro loss? :-)
    The deficit was €658,000, not €1million.

    At least Munster has something to show for its investment. Connaght doesn't.

    So much for Sears though.

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  • overthehillprop
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    Originally posted by jeepers View Post
    ahem .... Sears lasted 15 months ... and was half a million over budget !
    does that make him twice as good as his Munster counterpart given the million euro loss? :-)

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  • jeepers
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    Originally posted by overthehillprop View Post
    I never referred to Thomond Park as a liability. I referred to the large debt that the current administration have consistantly failed to service over a number of years. Apart from the 10 year ticket money there has been very little money paid off that loan. I also referred to being able to manage a budget properly which given the operating loss of circa 1 million euro last year is a pressing matter.

    I would suggest you have a look at the track record of Sears before dismissing him so easily. Also Humphreys is not CEO, that is Shane Logan who has an excellent commerical background to assist Humphreys on the business side of things.

    http://www.connachtrugby.ie/20120501...ppoint-new-ceo

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugb...er/8382867.stm
    ahem .... Sears lasted 15 months ... and was half a million over budget !

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  • i_like_cake
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    Originally posted by PARISHMAN1970 View Post
    Jaysus .... Rags is only 39...!

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  • PARISHMAN1970
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    Kelly Still Playing Important Role

    http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/12561.php#.UsGsjfRdWoM

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  • overthehillprop
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    Originally posted by Hurler View Post
    We have to get rid of the "jobs for the lads" culture in Munster. It seems if you are an ex player some cushy number will be found for you in the set-up whether as part of the backroom team (Shaun Payne etc) or just as a cheerleader to organise the Christmas party (Mick Galwey etc)

    The best people should get the job, not because they are well connected with friends on the appointment panels. As anyone in the know is aware rampant politics exist in Munster rugby football. I'd go so far as appoint an outside CEO who is not beholden to anyone. Need someone ruthless in there with a proper business backround, the financial situation is not great at the moment and if it is not rectified we'll lose players like Zebo when the big French clubs come sniffing around.
    http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/11528.php - A good idea of what the manager role involves.

    We talk to Niall O'Donovan who took over as Munster Rugby Team Manager in July last year.
    "There’s a lot more to this than I thought there was going to be. It’s going well and I’ve no problems with it but I’m still in the learning process. It’s completely different to coaching and I find it hard to stand back from the pitch at times so I just sit in my office while there’s training sessions on.There is a lot involved, there’s a huge management team there, there’s a huge playing team there so with all that there’s probably 80 bodies that need my attention, more often than I thought they would need my attention but it’s getting there and I’m getting used to it so it’s good.
    I work very close with Rob, the two of us need to be in sync saying the same thing, otherwise things could break down and players would be able to see through that as well. It’s important to have a close contact with him because that’s what it’s all about, us helping the players achieve goals.
    This is why we are here, making sure the players have the right training facilities, to getting up in the morning and wanting to come to work, so we have to create that environment for them.
    The game is about players and as a management role it is about helping getting the best out of players and working with them for any game or weekend. When I was coaching I never felt that players worked for me, I worked with them and made their life as easy as possible so they could do what they had to at the weekend."
    Plenty has changed since Niall's early coaching days, "My first year with Munster Rugby (97/98) I was put in with John Bevan, he was assigned the Head Coach and I was put in as assistant. The game was relatively new to the professional era, and realistically at the time we had the Interpro series (3 games) and what was known as the European Cup, and that was it for the season.
    John pulled out after four or five weeks and just to get through that season Declan (Kidney) came in. He worked with the backs and I worked with the forwards, and we fulfilled that season and all the fixtures. Then Declan went in as Head Coach the following year and I was his assistant.
    So at the very start you had Declan, myself, Jerry Holland as Manager and Colm Tucker was there for a season as well, and these guys were there on a part-time basis. We had David Mahedy as our fitness advisor and that was basically our management team.
    It evolved from there to where there were 4 or 5 management to close on 30 now. The same player wise, you had very few contracted guys on a fulltime basis in the late 90s, and you’re talking about 40 or 50 guys on a constant basis now so it’s certainly a big company.
    And that’s only our side of things. Then you go into one of the offices in Cork or Limerick and you see the amount of work being done in the background just to make sure everything else clicks into place, the whole organisation from Garrett down is a huge organisation and a well-oiled one; it works well together."
    As Team Manager it is for Niall to make the call on the more difficult decisions when it comes to squad needs and demands. "Look I can be the bad guy but in fairness to the lads once something is explained to them and they understand the financial side of things, that it is not a bottomless pit, then things are accepted.
    I’ve probably come in at a more difficult time, I’m like the 'Minister of Doom and Gloom' at times but the players are aware themselves, and as I said it isn’t a bottomless pit.
    Things are a bit tighter now and everybody is feeling the pinch, for everybody who has to come to a match it’s up to the players to make sure that they want to come back on a regular basis and the guys have to perform.
    My job itself I believe changes from hour to hour. It’s a kind of a job that there is no real switch off from it. The weekends are the busiest time, well from a player point of view with matches on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday.
    Then while the players are in down-time we’re still doing things, if you talk to any of the management guys, the physios, the S&C guys, you’re at the end of a phone 24 hours a day. At any stage of the day, at 6am you may get a call from a player who is ill and won’t be able to make it to training and I need that information for the coaching staff because they’re putting a schedule together for the day and they need to know who’s going to be there or not. The reality is you’re on call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
    Basically for most things team related, people come through me on it, whether it is press, kit, sponsors and things like that, I’m the go-to person. There are a lot of meetings. Everybody is willing to fill in your day for you but it is all part in parcel.
    I must say I really enjoyed last week with no game at the weekend but we were already talking about pre-season, and all of these things need to be planned long in advance. There are a lot of small bits and pieces which don’t really effect this week or next week but need to be done in the background so we’ve spent a lot of time looking at them in the past week."
    Niall and the team return to match action this Saturday in Musgrave Park when they take on Edinburgh in round 14 of the RaboDirect PRO12, ko 7.45pm.

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  • MrsMcGahan
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    No. It's actually Drick at age 19 wearing his lucky jim jams.

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  • FORWARD....
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    Originally posted by MrsMcGahan View Post


    CJ would make a good chief.
    That is a rather strange Village people type picture to post. Did you have it to hand or are you an Exeter fan?

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  • MunsterLux
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    Originally posted by oilean View Post
    Kelly in Q and A in Soho tonight
    1st question: "So John, any truth behind the rumours of you taking the hot seat?"
    JK: "None whatsoever."

    Q&A finished. Soho empty.

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  • oilean
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    Kelly in Q and A in Soho tonight

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  • MrsMcGahan
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    CJ would make a good chief.

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