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    Munster Players 'ABROAD'

    I was wondering how many ex Munster current players have slipped through our hands in recent years and are now playing for other clubs?
    1 Ian Keatley*
    2 Connor Fitzgerald
    3 Steven Fitzgerald
    4 Ultan Dillane
    5 Stan Cronin
    6 Robin Copeland*
    7 Donnacha
    8 Zebo
    9 Paddy Butler
    11 Sean Scanlon
    12 Stephen McMahon
    13 Eoghan Barrett
    14 Ben Roche
    15 John Maddigan

    * players who are not Munster born or bred. Probably should add Alby and Casey Laulala.

    Felix and ROG in coaching/management should probably also be included

    Are there more?
    Last edited by Surveyor; 5-January-2020, 16:34.
    'twas wicked yousir!

    #2
    Do you mean Stephen McMahon?
    there is a few in states. Cronan Gleeson who had been on development t contract for a period last season is with new us pro rugby side Atlanta.

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      #3
      Don't forget about Big Pete. Last seen in the Missions in Angola.
      Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue,
      Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!

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        #4
        Stephen McMahon was doing well at 15 for Carcossone a few years ago. A Dungarvan RFC product I believe.
        AFAIK I know we passed on Padddy Butler recently, who was training with us with a view towards Ja[anese club rugby? Hard to beleive he would not be at least as effective as some players on our roster at the moment.
        In terms of our power quotient it is hard to argue that Donn Ryan leaving did not seriously underpower us.

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          #5
          Originally posted by ormond lad View Post
          Do you mean Stephen McMahon?
          there is a few in states. Cronan Gleeson who had been on development t contract for a period last season is with new us pro rugby side Atlanta.
          Yep couldnt read my own writing

          UPDATED

          1 Ian Keatley* Benneton Treviso Italy
          2 Connor Fitzgerald Connacht
          3 Steven Fitzgerald Connacht
          4 Ultan Dillane Connacht
          5 Stan Cronin ??????? ???????
          6 Robin Copeland* Connacht
          7 Donnacha Racing 92 France
          8 Zebo Racing 92 France
          9 Paddy Butler RC Pau France
          11 Sean Scanlon Nottingham RFC UK
          12 Stephen McMahon Carcasonne France
          13 Eoghan Barrett* RC Pau France
          14 Ben Roche** RC Pau France
          15 John Maddigan RC Massy France
          16 Cronan Gleeson Rugby ATL USA
          17 Shane O'Leary Nottingham RFC UK
          18 Dave Foley RC Pau France
          19 Bill Johnstone Ulster
          20 Peter McCabe Connacht
          21 Gearoid Lyons Nottingham RFC UK
          22 Dave O'Callaghan Biarritz Olympique France
          23 Ian Nagle Zebre Italy
          24 David Johnstone Ealing Trailfinders UK
          25 Billy Scannel Biarritz Olympique France


          * players who are not Munster born or bred. Probably should add Alby and Casey Laulala.
          ** Neither of these are listed on Pau’s website?


          Felix and ROG in coaching/management should probably also be included

          Are there more?
          Last edited by Surveyor; 5-January-2020, 17:51.
          'twas wicked yousir!

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            #6
            Ben Betts former Ireland u 20 and academy is with Nottingham Rugby.
            I think Dave Foley left Pau at the end of last season, does anyone know his whereabouts?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Surveyor View Post

              Yep couldnt read my own writing

              UPDATED

              1 Ian Keatley* Benneton Treviso Italy
              2 Connor Fitzgerald Connacht
              3 Steven Fitzgerald Connacht
              4 Ultan Dillane Connacht
              5 Stan Cronin ??????? ???????
              6 Robin Copeland* Connacht
              7 Donnacha Racing 92 France
              8 Zebo Racing 92 France
              9 Paddy Butler RC Pau France
              11 Sean Scanlon Nottingham RFC UK
              12 Stephen McMahon Carcasonne France
              13 Eoghan Barrett* RC Pau France
              14 Ben Roche** RC Pau France
              15 John Maddigan RC Massy France
              16 Cronan Gleeson Rugby ATL USA
              17 Shane O'Leary Nottingham RFC UK
              18 Dave Foley RC Pau France
              19 Bill Johnstone Ulster
              20 Peter McCabe Connacht
              21 Gearoid Lyons Nottingham RFC UK
              22 Dave O'Callaghan Biarritz Olympique France
              23 Ian Nagle Zebre Italy
              24 David Johnstone Ealing Trailfinders UK
              25 Billy Scannel Biarritz Olympique France


              * players who are not Munster born or bred. Probably should add Alby and Casey Laulala.
              ** Neither of these are listed on Pau’s website?


              Felix and ROG in coaching/management should probably also be included

              Are there more?
              Nor sure if you counting the likes of Grobler (Glaws), Nick Wiliams (Cardiff), ex AB centre at Harlequins and Sean Dougall at a D2 French Club..
              Last edited by AdolphusGrigson; 6-January-2020, 10:59.
              ​​​​​​#GiveLeinsterTheHCupNow

              Originally Posted by mr chips
              AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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                #8
                Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post

                Nor sure if you counting the likes of Grobler (Glaws), Nick Wiliams (Cardiff), ex AB centre at Harlequins and Sean Dougall at a D2 French Club..
                Mike Prendergast at Racing is another Munster coach abroad

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                  #9
                  Sean McNulty now with RUNY,
                  Is Dave Ryan still with Agen in Top14 ?
                  Peter McCabe not with anyone now, was on trial with us at start of season

                  Truth be told there is only a couple on this list who Munster would like back

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                    #10
                    Ben Roche is back playing for UCC U'20 as far as i know

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tiernster View Post
                      Sean McNulty now with RUNY,
                      Is Dave Ryan still with Agen in Top14 ?
                      Peter McCabe not with anyone now, was on trial with us at start of season

                      Truth be told there is only a couple on this list who Munster would like back
                      There are three, maybe four, by my reckoning, and it’s not for lack of trying. Zeebs, Donnacha, Johnston and Dillane have all turned down contracts with us to play elsewhere. The rest wouldn’t add much IMHO.

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                        #12


                        UPDATED 2

                        1 Ian Keatley* Benneton Treviso Italy
                        2 Connor Fitzgerald Connacht
                        3 Steven Fitzgerald Connacht
                        4 Ultan Dillane Connacht
                        5 Stan Cronin ??????? ???????
                        6 Robin Copeland* Connacht
                        7 Donnacha Racing 92 France
                        8 Zebo Racing 92 France
                        9 Paddy Butler RC Pau France
                        11 Sean Scanlon Nottingham RFC UK
                        12 Stephen McMahon Carcasonne France
                        13 Eoghan Barrett* Section Paloise Béarn Pyrénées France
                        14 Ben Roche** RC Pau France
                        15 John Maddigan RC Massy France
                        16 Cronan Gleeson Rugby ATL USA
                        17 Shane O'Leary Nottingham RFC UK
                        18 Dave Foley RC Pau France
                        19 Bill Johnstone Ulster
                        20 Peter McCabe Connacht
                        21 Gearoid Lyons Nottingham RFC UK
                        22 Dave O'Callaghan Biarritz Olympique France
                        23 Ian Nagle Zebre Italy
                        24 David Johnstone Ealing Trailfinders UK
                        25 Billy Scannel Biarritz Olympique France
                        26 Dave Ryan Agen France
                        27 Jason Higgins Runy USA
                        28 Evan Mintern Runy USA




                        * players who are not Munster born or bred. Probably should add Alby and Casey Laulala.
                        ** Neither of these are listed on Pau’s website?


                        Felix and ROG in coaching/management should probably also be included

                        Peter Mccabe is back at Connacht per Andy Friend in this mornings I.T.

                        “We have got Pete McCabe in who has been with us previously but shy of that it has been a bit tricky,” Friend explained. “It is hard getting players [mid-season on loan] and that is why we have delved into our academy.”

                        Sean McNulty appears to have left Runy having got just 5 'caps' since May of last year, or maybe he's injured?

                        I'll add more coaching and management people as soon as I get time.

                        Truth be told there is only a couple on this list who Munster would like back

                        Looks that way, though I dont know many of the ex pats in the list.
                        Last edited by Surveyor; 9-January-2020, 08:39.
                        'twas wicked yousir!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Surveyor View Post

                          UPDATED 2

                          1 Ian Keatley* Benneton Treviso Italy
                          2 Connor Fitzgerald Connacht
                          3 Steven Fitzgerald Connacht
                          4 Ultan Dillane Connacht
                          5 Stan Cronin ??????? ???????
                          6 Robin Copeland* Connacht
                          7 Donnacha Racing 92 France
                          8 Zebo Racing 92 France
                          9 Paddy Butler RC Pau France
                          11 Sean Scanlon Nottingham RFC UK
                          12 Stephen McMahon Carcasonne France
                          13 Eoghan Barrett* Section Paloise Béarn Pyrénées France
                          14 Ben Roche** RC Pau France
                          15 John Maddigan RC Massy France
                          16 Cronan Gleeson Rugby ATL USA
                          17 Shane O'Leary Nottingham RFC UK
                          18 Dave Foley RC Pau France
                          19 Bill Johnstone Ulster
                          20 Peter McCabe Connacht
                          21 Gearoid Lyons Nottingham RFC UK
                          22 Dave O'Callaghan Biarritz Olympique France
                          23 Ian Nagle Zebre Italy
                          24 David Johnstone Ealing Trailfinders UK
                          25 Billy Scannel Biarritz Olympique France
                          26 Dave Ryan Agen France
                          27 Jason Higgins Runy USA
                          28 Evan Minton Runy USA




                          * players who are not Munster born or bred. Probably should add Alby and Casey Laulala.
                          ** Neither of these are listed on Pau’s website?


                          Felix and ROG in coaching/management should probably also be included

                          Peter Mccabe is back at Connacht per Andy Friend in this mornings I.T.

                          “We have got Pete McCabe in who has been with us previously but shy of that it has been a bit tricky,” Friend explained. “It is hard getting players [mid-season on loan] and that is why we have delved into our academy.”

                          Sean McNulty appears to have left Runy having got just 5 'caps' since May of last year, or maybe he's injured?

                          I'll add more coaching and management people as soon as I get time.

                          Truth be told there is only a couple on this list who Munster would like back

                          Looks that way, though I dont know many of the ex pats in the list.
                          I believe it’s Mintern.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by jagawayagain View Post

                            I believe it’s Mintern.
                            You're right of course, corrected, thanks.
                            'twas wicked yousir!

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                              #15
                              I think that's pretty much everyone out there?
                              I realise that there a lot of 'non national' ex munster players e.g. Grobelaar, Harte etc. that we have let go, but with the possible exception of Alby, its hard to see who we should have retained.

                              I agree with others, it doesn't look like we have missed many major opportunities.

                              I also suspect that this relatively short list is indicative of how small Munster's pool is by comparison with Leinster for example.

                              PS. Mind you it would be nice to have Connor Fitzgerald........................................ .............if he wasn't injured too!
                              'twas wicked yousir!

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