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  • Sea Horse
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    Originally posted by jagawayagain View Post

    Anyone know if he is a family man, and whether the family might have already moved (eg for school term etc). Am only interested because that must hasten the arrival day. There’s a very handy two week period before the next game and that would provide a great opportunity to get to know everyone and settle down to work.
    No idea, but I'd be happy if he could make it as soon as possible. It feels wrong having an excellent backs coach trying to improve us and a gap in the spot where the set-piece (and other forward play) is developed.

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  • jagawayagain
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    Originally posted by Sea Horse View Post

    You'd imagine Rowntree is free to come at any point from now on. Unless he's taking a break himself, his team are out and the pro's are probably already gone back to their own teams, such are the demands placed on them.
    Anyone know if he is a family man, and whether the family might have already moved (eg for school term etc). Am only interested because that must hasten the arrival day. There’s a very handy two week period before the next game and that would provide a great opportunity to get to know everyone and settle down to work.

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  • Sea Horse
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    Originally posted by jagawayagain View Post
    -pity Rowntree wasn’t there. But when they are back, presumably Sunday? - there’s a couple of weeks before we are home to ospreys (when does
    Rowntree arrive?
    ) and three weeks later away to them in HCUP. There’s a lot of behind the scenes work to be done behind the scenes.
    You'd imagine Rowntree is free to come at any point from now on. Unless he's taking a break himself, his team are out and the pro's are probably already gone back to their own teams, such are the demands placed on them.

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  • jagawayagain
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    Originally posted by Munsterboy View Post
    They seem to be using these opening season games to rotate through the options in various positions. We saw it last season too and it gives everybody a chance, keeps lads fresh and promotes a bit of competition.

    However, it does need to settle down eventually. There needs to be a bit of a pecking order in key positions to ensure there's continuity. Last season I thought we chopped and changed a bit too often for a bit too long, especially at 9 and 10.
    I don’t know how much of last years chopping and changing at half back was deliberate, and how much was force of circumstance (injury, IRFU enforced rest, etc). That said, which ever it was we didn’t manage to establish the pecking order at 10, but maybe at the end it was JC, JJ, TB. Scrim half wasn’t much better, although Alby was a godsend. We (presumably) aren’t keeping him, have recruited McCarthy (did we need to?), and have Cronin, Casey and presumably Stafford to keep keen and establish a pecking order, ideally a 9-10 partnership. Other than Conor at first, what’s the pecking order behind him? This is one of the reasons I wanted to see more
    experienced players selected for the Celtic cup, just to sort out some of the cab rank issues.

    All that said, two weeks away together, more or the whole squad, early in the season is a great opportunity -pity Rowntree wasn’t there. But when they are back, presumably Sunday? - there’s a couple of weeks before we are home to ospreys (when does
    Rowntree arrive?) and three weeks later away to them in HCUP. There’s a lot of behind the scenes work to be done behind the scenes.

    Really hope lads go well, getting anything out of this will make it a fantastic trip.

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  • Munsterboy
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    They seem to be using these opening season games to rotate through the options in various positions. We saw it last season too and it gives everybody a chance, keeps lads fresh and promotes a bit of competition.

    However, it does need to settle down eventually. There needs to be a bit of a pecking order in key positions to ensure there's continuity. Last season I thought we chopped and changed a bit too often for a bit too long, especially at 9 and 10.

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  • Sea Horse
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    Looks like a good team and bench. Lads like Knox, Coombes, Nash definitely being given a chance. Kevin O'Byrne is in super form and a good option to spring from the bench.
    No Boomer though. Thought he looked good last week.

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  • Sea Horse
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    The Munster side has been named for Friday evening’s Guinness PRO14 clash against in-form Cheetahs at Toyota Stadium in Bloemfontein (5.15pm Irish time, 6.15pm local time).

    Captain Billy Holland comes into the side as one of five changes to the team that beat Southern Kings last week with Tyler Bleyendaal, Nick McCarthy, Jeremy Loughman and Rhys Marshall also included.

    Mike Haley starts at full-back with Darren Sweetnam and Shane Daly, Man of the Match in both of Munster’s opening games, on either flank.

    McCarthy and Bleyendaal form a new half-back partnership with the centre pairing of Rory Scannell and Dan Goggin unchanged.

    Loughman, Marshall and Stephen Archer pack down in the front row with Fineen Wycherley and Holland in the engine room.

    The back row of Jack O’Donoghue, Tommy O’Donnell and Arno Botha is unchanged.

    Academy player Keynan Knox is in line to make his second PRO14 appearance off the bench with Calvin Nash in line for his first competitive action of the season.

    Find out all you need to know ahead of the game here.

    Munster: Mike Haley; Darren Sweetnam, Dan Goggin, Rory Scannell, Shane Daly; Tyler Bleyendaal, Nick McCarthy; Jeremy Loughman, Rhys Marshall, Stephen Archer; Fineen Wycherley, Billy Holland (C); Jack O’Donoghue, Tommy O’Donnell, Arno Botha.

    Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, James Cronin, Keynan Knox, Darren O’Shea, Gavin Coombes, Alby Mathewson, JJ Hanrahan, Calvin Nash.

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  • Viigand
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    Now if he’d only stop giving away silly penalties....

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  • Munsterboy
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    Originally posted by Cowboy View Post
    Archer looks like he lost weight btw he looked fair fit
    He looked fairly trim and mobile last season too. Fitness was better, scrummaging was much improved, and he displayed pretty good handling skills too. Ryan didn't have it all his own way, even though Joe still prefers him.

    Whatever happened, Archer's transformed himself in the last couple of years. Maybe he just matured and realised what was required to fulfill his potential.

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  • Cowboy
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    Archer looks like he lost weight btw he looked fair fit

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  • the plastic paddy
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    Originally posted by Munsterboy View Post
    By the way, biggest positive so far this season?

    Arno finally trimmed those sideburns.
    And it has seemed to improve his ability to hold onto the ball....

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  • jagawayagain
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    Originally posted by Sea Horse View Post

    Oh boys. That's not last year's Cheetahs. I thought Glasgow might have simply had an early season blip, but even allowing for it being a highlights reel, they look much better.
    I’m really glad- whatever the outcome of our game- that at least one of the SA teams might be competitive this year.

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  • Sea Horse
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    Originally posted by rathbaner View Post
    Highlights are up on youtube. I'd recommend checking out the cheetahs v Glasgow and Benetton v Leinster too.
    Oh boys. That's not last year's Cheetahs. I thought Glasgow might have simply had an early season blip, but even allowing for it being a highlights reel, they look much better.

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  • rathbaner
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    Highlights are up on youtube. I'd recommend checking out the cheetahs v Glasgow and Benetton v Leinster too.

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  • Munsterboy
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    By the way, biggest positive so far this season?

    Arno finally trimmed those sideburns.

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