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    Originally posted by Lonstonitis View Post
    Disappointing to see Arnold and Botha leaving but can't really say the others have been improving the team. When Shane Daly arrived on the scene it didn't look good for Wootton and the others haven't made a first team impact in quite a while. Hopefully they can all kick on at their next clubs.

    Does anyone have a list of the players promoted from the academy this year?
    Wotton is good in attack but he's always seemed very suspect in defence which is why I'm not surprised to see talk he's gonna move. Its a pretty ruthless world in the pro rugby game
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      Originally posted by Lonstonitis View Post
      Disappointing to see Arnold and Botha leaving but can't really say the others have been improving the team. When Shane Daly arrived on the scene it didn't look good for Wootton and the others haven't made a first team impact in quite a while. Hopefully they can all kick on at their next clubs.

      Does anyone have a list of the players promoted from the academy this year?
      O’Sullivan, Coombes, Knox and McHenry


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        Originally posted by Lonstonitis View Post
        Disappointing to see Arnold and Botha leaving but can't really say the others have been improving the team. When Shane Daly arrived on the scene it didn't look good for Wootton and the others haven't made a first team impact in quite a while. Hopefully they can all kick on at their next clubs.

        Does anyone have a list of the players promoted from the academy this year?
        Arno’s non extension was always on the cards. Arnold’s most probably more about getting game time for himself which was going to be limited at Munster.

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          Every summer I hope the squad gets that intangibly better and deeper with quality. Bringin in the fellas we are bringing in now is hopefully the catalyst.

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            Official confirmation from munster that conor Oliver and Sammy Arnold have signed for connacht and that Salanoa has signed for munster
            https://twitter.com/Munsterrugby/sta...749614087?s=20
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              Originally posted by Captain Fantastic View Post
              Munster to reshuffle squad with up to nine players set to depart ahead of next season


              https://amp.independent.ie/sport/rug...mpression=true

              sorry if i missed something but only 6 players mentioned in the article, botha is 7...so who are the other two?

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                Originally posted by SlurpySlurps View Post


                sorry if i missed something but only 6 players mentioned in the article, botha is 7...so who are the other two?
                Parker, Scott, O'Shea, O'Connor, Oliver, Botha, Stafford, Arnold, Wootton

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                  Originally posted by SlurpySlurps View Post


                  sorry if i missed something but only 6 players mentioned in the article, botha is 7...so who are the other two?
                  Stafford is mentioned. He doesn’t name Wootton but the Limerick Leader does. Could be a few others not continuing in the academy too if previous years are anything to go on


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                    Gotta give JvG the acknowledgement, he appears to be much more ruthless with exiting people not fitting the bill than previous management structures. Whether it's his style or finances are forcing his hand, he appears to be taking no s**t.

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                      Sammy made a point of noting on twitter that it was his call not to re-sign. He’s a level above McHenry IMO and Connacht have depth at centre, but best of luck to him.


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                        Originally posted by Colliniho View Post
                        Sammy made a point of noting on twitter that it was his call not to re-sign. He’s a level above McHenry IMO and Connacht have depth at centre, but best of luck to him.


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                        He is definitely better than McHenry, but he is also more expensive and probably less accepting of not playing every week. Squad management isn't always about a one to one choice on quality between 2 players.

                        The pecking order for next year would seem to be DDA/Farrell with Scannel/Goggin getting plenty of gametime with rotation and injury. Beyond that JJ, Tyler, Nash, Daly, Earls all have experience at centre also. So McHenry is probably a better squad player than Arnold who isn't going to gain more from being a bit part player for us. McHenry will be delighted to get a few caps over the course of the season, play Celtic Cup and train full time with the seniors - maybe he breaks through or maybe he moves on also in 2 seasons having experienced a highly professional set-up.

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                          Wootton is strange to me, he went from quite a prospect to basically a starter to falling off the face of the earth... very odd
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                            Originally posted by AwayFromHome View Post

                            He is definitely better than McHenry, but he is also more expensive and probably less accepting of not playing every week. Squad management isn't always about a one to one choice on quality between 2 players.

                            The pecking order for next year would seem to be DDA/Farrell with Scannel/Goggin getting plenty of gametime with rotation and injury. Beyond that JJ, Tyler, Nash, Daly, Earls all have experience at centre also. So McHenry is probably a better squad player than Arnold who isn't going to gain more from being a bit part player for us. McHenry will be delighted to get a few caps over the course of the season, play Celtic Cup and train full time with the seniors - maybe he breaks through or maybe he moves on also in 2 seasons having experienced a highly professional set-up.
                            I agree with pretty much all of this. It looks like Sammy just wasn’t willing to start next season as third choice 13


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                              some interesting info in this article on a number of players

                              https://www.independent.ie/sport/rug...-39215807.html

                              Double boost for Munster with star Springbok duo set to be available for rugby return

                              Springbok centre Damian de Allende (pictured) is joining Munster along with international team-mate RG Snyman. Photo by Brendan Moran/Sportsfile
                              Ruaidhri O'Connor

                              May 18 2020 07:52 PM

                              MUNSTER have confirmed that Springbok pair RG Snyman and Damian de Allende will join the province on July 1 and they are set to be available for the run-in and knock-outs if the 2019/20 Guinness PRO14 season resumes.

                              The World Cup winners are set to link up with their new squad-mates when Munster and the other provinces are given the green light to train together this summer.

                              Johann van Graan’s side will be bolstered by the arrival of the powerful duo, as well as full-back Matt Gallagher and Leinster prop Roman Salanoa.

                              And, while the coach revealed that he does not yet know if the players will be allowed to contribute if the provinces are allowed to play one another in August in a curtailed run-in, before the PRO14 knockouts in September, it is expected that they will be cleared to play.

                              "RG Snyman and Damian De Allende will definitely join the Munster squad in the summer and will officially join Munster Rugby on July 1 regardless of what happens with Covid-19," Johann van Graan said in a video to fans at the weekend.

                              "I’m really looking forward to seeing both of them play for Munster.

                              "It is still to early to determine if RG Snyman, Damian de Allende and Matt Gallagher will be eligible to play in the closing stages of the current PRO14 season if that goes ahead."

                              It looks like they will be able to contribute. The PRO14 board is due to meet later this week to discuss their plans for resuming rugby. A proposal is on the table to allow players registered before the restart to be registered for the resumption and then the 2020/21 season.

                              It is thought the competition organisers do not want a situation where players are sidelined through no fault of their own.

                              The situation will also benefit Connacht and Ulster who are making additions to their squad, while Leinster are not planning any new signings and are likely to lose Wallaby Joe Tomane, who has been linked to the Dragons.

                              Munster are also monitoring the situation with regards travel to and from South Africa where CJ Stander and Chris Cloete have based themselves during the Covid-19 lockdown. De Allende and Snyman are understood to have remained in Japan, where they played in the Top League until it was called off.

                              Currently, there are no commercial international flights in or out of the Rainbow nation and a number of English clubs have expressed concern about getting their players back in time to begin training ahead of the planned Premiership resumption this summer. The ban is currently scheduled to go on until May 31, but could be extended.

                              The English league is expected to return before the PRO14, with rugby in Ireland scheduled to be allowed as part of stage five of the lifting of restrictions which is currently planned for August 10.

                              The provinces hope to be able to return to training in small numbers before that date in a bid to be able to stage inter-provincial matches behind closed doors, at the Aviva Stadium from August 17.

                              However, no return to training or playing dates have been confirmed as the unions, clubs and competition organisers continue to work with public health officials towards finishing the season.

                              Meanwhile, former Munster No 8 Robin Copeland will join French Pro D2 club


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                                Originally posted by KerryRed View Post
                                Wootton is strange to me, he went from quite a prospect to basically a starter to falling off the face of the earth... very odd
                                He looked good versus bottom end pro 14 teams but had absolute howler in Bordeaux against racing and lost all confidence after that. He didn’t feature much since.

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