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    MATCH THREAD: Benetton Treviso v Munster, 7.00 12 April

    Treviso just gave Leinster a fright in Dublin and but for some questionable refereeing (a shoulder charge to the head in a ruck deemed "accidental") could well have beaten the double-champs instead of merely drawing with them. They outperformed Leinster everywhere but on the scoreboard - tackles missed, carries, metres made, gainline success, handling errors, turnovers won and possession. So any notions that our forthcoming trip to Italy should be at least a guaranteed four-pointer belong firmly in the past - this will be a serious test of our squad and our ability to win away, which has been inconsistent for most of the season. That said, our performance against Cardiff - widely expected to be a banana skin of a game - was encouraging, especially the way we came from behind in the second half to put a serious score on them.

    Johann Van Graan mentioned that a number of our front-liners would be rested for this fixture in order to allow them to recover from various knocks and niggles ahead of the HEC semi final. From the42.ie - "Peter O’Mahony, Conor Murray, Jean Kleyn and Keith Earls all picked up knocks of varying severity, and with an away trip to Italy to face Benetton next week, van Graan will hand time off to some of them."

    I would hope that all four of those mentioned would be rested - we have more than adequate alternatives for all of them available to us, none of whom would weaken the side - but the use of the word "some" could be taken to mean that not all of those four will miss this game. In any case, our ability to field a completely second-string side (even if that was the plan) is limited by the fact that several of those who might have been considered are currently away with the A-side in the US and don't fly back until Thursday, meaning we are bound to see a mix of players take the field in Treviso. On top of that, it's important to strike a balance between resting players and maintaining match-sharpness.

    If Kleyn is rested we could see Billy Holland and Tadhg Beirne start in the second row, with Darren O'Shea on the bench - or will JVG hand O'Shea the opportunity of starting this one? Fineen Wycherley must surely be in the mix for this game as well, hopefully replicating *that* post-Christmas performance. Assuming Earls is given the week off to make sure he doesn't aggravate the calf issue that caused him to pull out of the Cardiff game, Sweetnam and Conway are probably the likeliest options on the wing, although someone like Ronan O'Mahoney could be a candidate here too. Given that Chris Farrell missed so much of the season, he may be one of those for whom more gametime is deemed to be beneficial, but could we see Dan Goggin partner him so as to give Rory Scannell a break? Sammy Arnold has also returned from injury at a good time so we do have options, although it may be more beneficial to keep our starting centres together as much as possible. We have less scope for making many changes in the front row, but if James Cronin is to feature at all before the end of the season then this game would be close to his last opportunity, even from the bench.

    Treviso have a tough pack who work hard at the breakdown, with skilful and quick-witted halfbacks in Tebaldi and Allen, nippy wingers and a burgeoning sense of confidence. They will relish the opportunity to turn us over. A Munster victory in this game could well turn out to be the difference between a home and away semi final in the Pro 14 once the conference stage is complete, but we have to rest several frontliners anyway. No pressure then.
    Tis but a scratch.

    #2
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rug...rney-1.3850982

    Good piece on Benetton Rugby by GT yesterday.

    A sample:

    Sports Director Antonio Pavanello has witnessed some change and wants to see more.

    “I think it is a much different club. We want to be one of the great clubs in Europe. We have improved in all areas. For example, when I finished my playing career here we had three coaches, one fitness trainer, two physios – one in the morning and one in the afternoon.”

    “Now we have a staff of 25 people, with five coaches, five trainers, five physios, two video analysts. So that’s in terms of staff. In terms of structures, we have a new gym, new pitch, new synthetic pitches. So we’ve really improved as a club, not only in terms of players but especially for all the concerns around the place.”

    “So, we try to move on with the philosophy and the idea of what I would like to have had when I was a player. That is the main thing, with a positive way to approach rugby, to try to have solutions and not make problems.”

    ...

    At the Stadio Monigo they have won 10 of 12 matches this season in both competitions, the exceptions being the back-to-back defeats by Leinster and Ulster going into the November Test window.

    “That was one of our goals at the beginning of the season: to create a fort inside our stadium, and it has been that way. There remains only Munster, so we hope it will be the same for the last match at home,” he says, laughing. But he also stresses the importance of Benetton being competitive away, and as well as three wins and a draw, there have been four bonus points on their travels.

    Pavanello admits they have to broaden their support base beyond Treviso, and to that end the club was renamed Benetton Rugby at the start of last season.

    Even so, attendances having been below 2,500 until December, of late there have been crowds of 4,500-plus for the games against Harlequins, Zebre and Edinburgh, and almost 4,000 for Glasgow. The Monigo has a capacity of 6,200 and Pavanello forecasts that “it will be full” for the Munster game.

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      #3
      Very interesting to see how strong the Munster team is .A win and a Pro 14 final against (probably) Leinster is likely in Glasgow.

      Absolutely massive game.

      Real test of how good Munster are. I think we know that Earls, Murray and POM are out - everyone else that is fit and is 1st choice needs to play.
      ​​​​​​#GiveLeinsterTheHCupNow

      Originally Posted by mr chips
      AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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        #4
        True hard core ultras travelling to this game.
        Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue,
        Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!

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          #5
          Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
          Very interesting to see how strong the Munster team is .A win and a Pro 14 final against (probably) Leinster is likely in Glasgow.

          Absolutely massive game.

          Real test of how good Munster are. I think we know that Earls, Murray and POM are out - everyone else that is fit and is 1st choice needs to play.
          Wont happen, all internationals are off this week. Looking at complete second string. Great opportunity for these guys.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Redcafe1 View Post

            Wont happen, all internationals are off this week. Looking at complete second string. Great opportunity for these guys.
            And great opportunity for Glasgow to maintain (or increase) their lead over Munster.
            ​​​​​​#GiveLeinsterTheHCupNow

            Originally Posted by mr chips
            AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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              #7
              Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post

              And great opportunity for Glasgow to maintain (or increase) their lead over Munster.
              Such a selection would make a big ask absolutely huge. I really hope JVG doesn’t do this- but redcafe was spot in with the selection last week, so am now seriously worried! I want the bench to start with TB at 10, JOD, Fineen, with two Cronins on the bench.
              Last edited by jagawayagain; 8th-April-2019, 07:10.

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                #8
                Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post

                And great opportunity for Glasgow to maintain (or increase) their lead over Munster.
                The same core guys cannot be expected to be play four weekends in a row. International players are entitled to have time off also under the IRFU player welfare program.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Redcafe1 View Post

                  The same core guys cannot be expected to be play four weekends in a row. International players are entitled to have time off also under the IRFU player welfare program.
                  Fair enough but with no internationals against Benneton and if they play theirs then can't realistically expect Munster to win.

                  ​​​​​​#GiveLeinsterTheHCupNow

                  Originally Posted by mr chips
                  AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Redcafe1 View Post

                    Wont happen, all internationals are off this week. Looking at complete second string. Great opportunity for these guys.
                    Why do you think this? Is there an Ireland training camp? As far as I know all internationals are available for selection.

                    Also which second string team are you referring to? Most of our second string team is in the US right now.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Chrizzzie View Post

                      Why do you think this? Is there an Ireland training camp? As far as I know all internationals are available for selection.

                      Also which second string team are you referring to? Most of our second string team is in the US right now.
                      Its called IRFU player management protocol - Aki and Roux were rested for Connacht against Zebre at the weekend and most of the Leinster lads likewise. There are only 6 senior players gone with the A squad.

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                        #12
                        We could still have some great players starting, Beirne, Kleyn, Scannell, Ably, Tyler, Scannell eile, earls, Sam Arnold....

                        going to be tough to get a win...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
                          Very interesting to see how strong the Munster team is .A win and a Pro 14 final against (probably) Leinster is likely in Glasgow.

                          Absolutely massive game.

                          Real test of how good Munster are. I think we know that Earls, Murray and POM are out - everyone else that is fit and is 1st choice needs to play.
                          JvG quoted in the Examiner:

                          ”We will definitely rotate next weekend. We have a European semi-final coming up and whatever happens, we will be in a play-off in the PRO14.”

                          No matter how many times you say we should prioritise the Pro14, we’re prioritising the HEC and if that means finishing second in our pool, so be it. We went near full strength against Cardiff to secure play-off qualification, now that’s done the focus shifts to the main event.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by lawrence View Post
                            We could still have some great players starting, Beirne, Kleyn, Scannell, Ably, Tyler, Scannell eile, earls, Sam Arnold....

                            going to be tough to get a win...
                            Not sure Tyler will start unless they’re confident Joey will be fit. Big risk otherwise.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by lawrence View Post
                              We could still have some great players starting, Beirne, Kleyn, Scannell, Ably, Tyler, Scannell eile, earls, Sam Arnold....

                              going to be tough to get a win...
                              Earls I think has been mentioned by Van as not playing. Beirne is an international so not sure how that ties in with points made above.

                              If better players are not available because they are/were in the States - that would be a monumental feck up.
                              Last edited by AdolphusGrigson; 8th-April-2019, 09:29.
                              ​​​​​​#GiveLeinsterTheHCupNow

                              Originally Posted by mr chips
                              AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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