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Gloucester vs Munster - Heineken Cup R5 - Friday January 11th @ 19:45

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    Was it just me or, just before the scrum that led to Conway's non-try, Murray was hit with a shoulder charge when he was holding up the scrum half? Should have been at least a penalty and probably a yellow card. Didn't matter in the scheme of things but at the time he looked like he might be hurt.

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      Originally posted by whimpersnap View Post
      Was it just me or, just before the scrum that led to Conway's non-try, Murray was hit with a shoulder charge when he was holding up the scrum half? Should have been at least a penalty and probably a yellow card. Didn't matter in the scheme of things but at the time he looked like he might be hurt.
      Certainly looked like that and I thought at the time the video ref asked to have a look.

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        Lots here saying Glaws were poor - not sure about that. They started like they really meant business and we rode our luck a little the first 10 minutes or so. They were out coached, out muscled, but I think in fairness is was more Munster were good tonight than Glaws were poor.

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          Originally posted by whimpersnap View Post
          Was it just me or, just before the scrum that led to Conway's non-try, Murray was hit with a shoulder charge when he was holding up the scrum half? Should have been at least a penalty and probably a yellow card. Didn't matter in the scheme of things but at the time he looked like he might be hurt.
          You’re absolutely correct, it was a definite penalty and almost certainly a yc too. I heard no referral to TMO but if Yatenga did I wouldn’t argue,

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            Originally posted by Yatenga View Post
            Lots here saying Glaws were poor - not sure about that. They started like they really meant business and we rode our luck a little the first 10 minutes or so. They were out coached, out muscled, but I think in fairness is was more Munster were good tonight than Glaws were poor.
            There's no doubt that Munster were very good and dominated the set-play. That level of performance would make most opponents look poor.

            However, Glaws had a very bad day at the office. The amount of Murray's box kicks that were spilled was surprising, for example. They have some decent line out specialists and should not have lost this area so badly. Their rolling maul was ineffective. The tackle on Scannell was hopeless. Also don't forget that we could easily have had 4/5 more tries - Farrell's forward pass, Conway's hack forward that went dead, etc.

            We've been improving nicely but you won't hockey a premiership side away, like that unless they are pretty poor on the day.
            Last edited by The Yak; 12th-January-2019, 07:50.

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              Originally posted by Waterfordlad View Post
              I had a look at the Glaws Fans site. Obviously many are gutted as we would have been if we lost, but the majority still recognize how well Munster played. They are a great bunch of fans
              I had a peek and thought the same. No one complained about Poite either.

              A few questions answered last night too - Lots (me included) questioned Billy's worth at this stage and some suggested Fineen should have been on the bench - Billy did very well - great off load to Earlsy and great switch of play for Conway's try.
              Rory justified his selection too.
              Management showed it's worth, Felix can be well satisfied.
              Last edited by The Yak; 12th-January-2019, 07:43.

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                The biggest negative in respect of that match last night was our aquamarine jersey.

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                  Originally posted by The Last Stand View Post
                  The biggest negative in respect of that match last night was our aquamarine jersey.
                  I’d put an injury to POM a bit ahead of a jersey color.

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                    Originally posted by lawrence View Post

                    I’d put an injury to POM a bit ahead of a jersey color.
                    And the key is if he's injured don't parachute him back. If he's not right for England Tadgh Beirne can do a job. Or Leavy. The 6 Nations is big but not the biggest goal for Ireland. And even for us next week. We have enough cover. Yes you loose something when you loose POM but we have enough talent

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                      It was great to see us making line breaks, people coming from deep onto the ball etc. All based on a huge performance from the pack, and the two haven't always gone together.

                      A step up in quality in the next game, and hopefully the momentum can be maintained.

                      If we're going to win silverware, it's going to come down to us being able to extract opportunities from defences that don't cough up the sort of drop ball, missed tackle and set piece errors that Glaws gave us.

                      Great that we punished them, need to be able to deliver without them against Leinster/Sarries/Racing.

                      Onward and upward...
                      "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

                      "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


                      "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                        Gloucester competed well enough for 60 mins but i thought they looked inexperienced against us.even though they were at home they looked a bit uncomposed and rushed things where cooler heads might have done better.
                        They were missing a fair few players and also some returning so lacked unity.
                        Missing for them were
                        Ruan Ackermann, Gareth Denman, Ruan Dreyer, Todd Gleave, James Hanson, Willi Heinz, Jaco Kriel, Tom Marshall, Jake Polledri, Henry Purdy, Val Rapava Ruskin, Will Safe, Tom Savage, Jaco Visagie, Jason Woodward

                        some decent front liners there so from their perspective they can still have something to fight for when players come back and good luck to them as they are good club.

                        for us it was a night to remember building on the back of two great provincial wins.
                        The pack was immense and our defense was really good.attack wise too we ran clever lines and took our opputunities well.
                        bodes well for rest of season looking forward to it .

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                          Originally posted by NiallGK View Post
                          What we all saw was a thing of beauty, the likes of which we haven't observed in years.

                          We now have four 1st place prayers onboard who were absent last season. Each of these players, are beginning to click in full with this team.

                          We were good last year, bar Bordeaux. This year...???
                          We lost the Bordeaux game in the first 15 mins, starting cold. That hasn’t been happening in the last few months- it looks like the team/coaches have addressed that problem.

                          Being there last night it felt far more of s struggle than some here are giving Gloucester credit for, as you’d expect they started powerfully- and it took all our ability to hold fast, the storm weathered we exerted our superiority. But even at half time, the 10 point lead we had was far from secure- again in the second half they took it to us, but again we weathered that storm. Throughout, with the exception of Murray’s first kick, we kicked well, pressured the kick /receiver and gave them nowhere to go. It took a huge amount of work to maintain this stranglehold on the game. In the end the score line reflected the difference between a team topping their group, and a team that is out of the competition. Just because we got a justified 5-0 away from home doesn’t mean they were poor.

                          lTo me it was the best all round performance I’ve seen from Munster in years, and the vastly encouraging thing is that we clearly have more to add. How far can we go? Further.

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                            Ackerman said that it was the mistakes that cost Gloucester, rather than their general play. He highlights catching and their lineouts.

                            I'm not sure. A number of our scores came from good Munster plays, especially Carbery's 40th minute try, the one from Earls and Conway's disallowed effort. We did create some really good stuff.
                            "I don't believe in fairytales," O'Connell once told me, "even though it feels like I've been lucky enough to live through a few. However it ends, I'll feel lucky."
                            Donald McRae, Guardian Rugby, October 2015

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                              If POM's rib keeps him out of Joe's injury factory in February and March it would be worth him missing out next week. A fully fit and fresh POM coming back in for the latter stages of the league and cup would be fantastic.
                              "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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                                ROG is a keen Carbery watcher. He liked what he saw last night:


                                Ronan O Gara‏ @RonanOGara10
                                Simply stunning JC.. capacity to scan on the run and execute belongs to very few.. #Special
                                "I don't believe in fairytales," O'Connell once told me, "even though it feels like I've been lucky enough to live through a few. However it ends, I'll feel lucky."
                                Donald McRae, Guardian Rugby, October 2015

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