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    Ok, wont bother posting my permutations, but here is what the QFs should look like


    Llanelli (1) V Leicester ([img]smileys/cool.gif[/img]


    Biarittz (2) V Northampton (7)


    Munster (3) V Stade (6)


    Leinster (4) VWasps (5)

    #2
    And what do you the the SF'S will be??

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      #3


      BO are on MAX points now
      Is it only a game?
      And its Thomond Park NOT Thomond

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        #4
        Originally posted by SpringPOC


        Ok, wont bother posting my permutations, but here is what the QFs should look like


        Llanelli (1) V Leicester ([img]smileys/cool.gif[/img]


        Biarittz (2) V Northampton (7)


        Munster (3) V Stade (6)


        Leinster (4) VWasps (5)


        Biarritz will either be 1st or 7th seed unless youcall the Saints/Biarritz match a draw.

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          #5


          Stade,to be fair,should finish above Wasps....
          Seas suas agus troid!

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            #6
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            Munster, Leinster, Llanelli Scarlets and Biarritz are all guaranteed their place in the Heineken Cup quarter-finals after this weekend's matches.


            But four coveted places are up for grabs, with seven teams still in the hunt.


            The six pool winners progress to the quarter-finals, where they will be joined by the two best runners-up.



            <DIV ="ch1">POOL ONE</DIV>


            Wasps took a big stride towards the last eight by beating Perpignan 22-14 at home on Saturday.


            Lawrence Dallaglio's side denied Perpignan a losing bonus point to eliminate the French side from the equation.


            And Wasps can now travel to Castres, who secured their expected comfortable win over Treviso, next week with the knowledge that a losing bonus point ought to be enough to take them through.



            <DIV ="ch1">POOL TWO</DIV>


            Leinster's comprehensive 49-10 win over Edinburgh guaranteed them top spot in the group and a place in the quarters.


            But the Irish side will attempt to secure a home quarter-final when they travel to Kingsholm for their final pool match against Gloucester next weekend.


            Agen ended Gloucester's hopes with a 26-18 at Stade Armandie, but results on Sunday mean the French side cannot qualify either.



            <DIV ="ch1">POOL THREE</DIV>


            This is the tightest of the six groups, but Stade Francais' last-minute penalty to draw their match against the Ospreys makes them strong favourites to go through.


            Stade, who top the group by a point, face Italian minnows Calvisano in their final match where they will be expected to secure a bonus point.


            Meanwhile, Ospreys take on Sale with both teams needing bonus-point wins to have any hopes of going through - and other results going their way.



            <DIV ="ch1">POOL FOUR</DIV>


            Munster are certain of a place in the last eight. Although Leicester could pip them as group winners with victory next week, the Irish side's 22 points will definitely be good enough for at least a best runners-up spot.


            But for Leicester to top the group and be sure of going through, the Tigers would have to do what no other team has done in Europe: go to Thomond Park and win.


            A losing bonus point is unlikely to be enough for the Tigers, although it is still a mathematical possibility.



            <DIV ="ch1">POOL FIVE</DIV>


            Llanelli Scarlets have proved the surprise package of the tournament and have guaranteed themselves a last eight place with a powerful away win over Ulster.


            The Scarlets shrugged off the shocking conditions at Ravenhill to record a 35-11 win, following up their superb comeback win over Toulouse in the previous round of games.


            The Welsh side made it five wins out of five in this year's tournament and they can ensure a home quarter-final with victory over London Irish next week.


            As for once-mighty Toulouse, their hopes of a record fourth title have been extinguished, despite their 26-24 win over London Irish.



            <DIV ="ch1">POOL SIX</DIV>


            Biarritz, runners-up to Munster in last year's final, ensured qualification with a 45-3 victory over strugglers Parma on Friday for a fifth straight win in the competition.


            And Northampton kept themselves on course for the last eight with a bonus-point win over Borders.


            The two dominant sides in the pool will meet at the weekend - at Franklin's Gardens - to decide who will progress as group winners. </TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>
            \'For he that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart\'.
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              #7
              Originally posted by seanp


              BO are on MAX points now


              Given their form of late and the fact they have played no one in this competition so far, there is no gaurantee that they will beat Northampton away, either way the prize for being top seed could be the Tigers

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                #8





                BO have a big advantage in playing last next weekend.


                They will win their pool anyway as they will hardly suffer a BP loss.


                Saints should be the weakest team in the quarters bya long long way.

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                  #9
                  Biaritz have had an armchair ride this season in the HC, I wonder will that stand them in good sted later in the competition,

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                    #10


                    Reckon Biarritz coudl well lose at Saints - whcih would make it;


                    Llannelli (1) vsSale (or Ospreys) ([img]smileys/cool.gif[/img]


                    Munster (2) vs Northampton (7)


                    Biarritz (3) vs Castres (or Wasps) (6)


                    Leinster (4) vs Stade (5)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by popularside





                      BO have a big advantage in playing last next weekend.


                      They will win their pool anyway as they will hardly suffer a BP loss.


                      Saints should be the weakest team in the quarters bya long long way.


                      I wouldn't worry much about playing Wasps at home either.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hecko


                        Reckon Biarritz coudl well lose at Saints - whcih would make it;


                        Llannelli (1) vsSale (or Ospreys) ([img]smileys/cool.gif[/img]


                        Munster (2) vs Northampton (7)


                        Biarritz (3) vs Castres (or Wasps) (6)


                        Leinster (4) vs Stade (5)


                        Interesting thought although I doubt it will happen.


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                          #13


                          Irish duel still on the cards
                          <DIV =LeadPara>FIRST, the positives. Munster have progressed to the knockout stages of the Heineken Cup for the ninth consecutive season as a result of yesterday’s three-point victory over Bourgoin. </DIV>
                          <DIV =LeadPara>Also qualified with one round to go are Leinster - by virtue of their excellent victory over Edinburgh on Saturday - Biarritz and Llanelli. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>Leicester’s facile 34–0 bonus point victory over the Cardiff Blues means that next weekend’s showdown between the Tigers and Munster in the last match before the redevelopment of Thomond Park’s will decide who emerges as pool victors. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>Should Munster lose and fail to pick up a bonus point they will still qualify as one of the two best-placed runners up. That will almost certainly result in an away clash against Llanelli or Biarritz. Victory, on the other hand, will guarantee a ‘home’ quarter-final. The permutations for their potential opposition are endless but should Leinster lose to Gloucester, the possibility of an all-Irish quarter final remains a possibility. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>If Munster never sees Geneva again, they won’t be sorry. Bourgoin, who collapsed to an appalling 57-3 defeat to Leicester at Welford Road, were clearly up for the challenge of beating the Heineken Cup holders. It helped that Munster played into their hands from a tactical perspective when failing to launch their superior kicking game. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>Unbelievably in the circumstances, Munster almost pulled off a bonus point victory when the returning Anthony Foley was held up inches from the line in the last play of the game. That said, given the way the contest unfolded, Munster were more than happy to retreat from Switzerland with a win of any description. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>With performances like this, one can see how Bourgoin have regularly finished in the top four in the French championship. Quite why they never approach the Heineken Cup with the same attitude remains one of rugby’s great mysteries. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>Right from the kick-off when Donncha O’Callaghan regained possession, Munster declared their hand. In magnificent playing conditions they looked to keep the ball in hand at all times and played with commendable width. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>However their execution let them down and they paid a heavy price when Bourgoin capitalised on poor mistakes to score tries from their excellent captain Julienne Bonnaire and centre Guillaume Bousses. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>An opportunist try by Marcus Horan, whose pace in reaching the corner flag confirmed his complete rehabilitation from a recent calf injury, lifted Munster’s spirits and the superb touchline conversion from Ronan O’Gara was an added bonus. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>The fact Munster reached half time on level terms was down to strong refereeing from the oft-criticised Malcolm Changleng of Scotland. His decision to award a penalty try when Bourgoin collapsed a Munster lineout maul was both brave and correct. The additional sin-binning of flanker Brice Monzeglio was probably less so. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>At half time, one felt Munster would refine their tactical approach and revert to their proven kicking game in the quest for territory. Inexplicably, they failed to do so and almost paid a heavy price. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>In the knowledge that Bourgoin possess an excellent lineout, Declan Kidney chose to include Mick O’Driscoll over Anthony Foley as an auxiliary jumper to support the O’Connell/O’Callaghan axis. He more than justified his selection with a solid game throughout. </DIV>
                          <DIV =TailParas>It was apparent, however,
                          Seas suas agus troid!

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                            #14


                            Who needs what as hunt for quarter-final places intensifies
                            <DIV =LeadPara>ALL over Europe, rugby clubs and fans are sitting down with pools, lists, calculators, algorithms and abacuses, all of them trying to work out who’s qualified for what — and who’s still in the hunt. </DIV>
                            <DIV =LeadPara>For anyone who’s not tricked out with the necessary equipment, here’s a guide to who needs what this weekend for the Heineken Cup quarter-finals. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>First off, four teams have qualified: Munster, Scarlets, Biarritz, Leinster. Then there are those who are in with a chance: Wasps, Castres, Sale, Ospreys, Stade Français, Leicester, and Northampton. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>First things first: Leicester need a bonus point at Munster to get through. If either Sale, the Ospreys, or Castres got a bonus point win it would go down to points difference, though the Tigers have the upper hand. A win may see them top the group. It would definitely see them as a best runner-up. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>Wasps need a bonus point in Castres and if they can get that — and prevent Castres getting a bonus point in victory — they will also top the group. In fact, if Wasps win in Castres, they may well get a home quarter-final. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>Only if Castres beat Wasps by more than seven points — and score four tries in the process while conceding less than four tries — will the French top the group. A win with no bonus points for either team will also be enough to send them through as pool winners — if they beat Wasps by more than ten points. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>However, a win of any kind for the French may be enough to send them through as a best runner-up with 19 points — they will need other results to go their way though, including bonus point-less defeats for Leicester and Northampton. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>After the draw between the Ospreys and Stade Français, Pool Three is wide open. Stade Français ought to go through as pool winners with only the formality of beating Calvisano at home to complete. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>The Ospreys need to win — with a bonus point — away at Sale to make sure of their spot. A win without a bonus point leaves them sweating on the results of Leicester and Castres. If Leicester suffer a big defeat, and Castres fail to beat Wasps, the Ospreys will nick a runner-up spot. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>The same scenario applies to Sale, although the Sharks are not guaranteed a spot even if they get a bonus point win, a win of any kind will leave the Sharks needing Leicester and Castres to crash. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>Northampton just need a bonus point to go through as a best runner-up, and a big win over Biarritz might see them top the group, but that’s a tall order against last year’s beaten finalists. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>Possible quarter-final line-up: Biarritz v Leicester; Scarlets v Northampton; Munster v Stade Français; Leinster v Wasps. </DIV>
                            <DIV =TailParas>© Irish Examiner, 2007. Thomas Crosbie Media, TCH </DIV>


                            Seas suas agus troid!

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                              #15


                              From an Ospreys point of view I am hoping you destroy Leicester at the weekend not letting them get a losing bonus point , Cause if we beat Sale that will be enough for us to go through !!!!!





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