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    #76
    Originally posted by Piquet View Post
    You, yet again, seem to misunderstand that players will modify their behaviour if such behaviour is penalised consistently.

    As a result of this modified behaviour, the number of penalties will fall.

    As a result of the fall in the number of penalties, the game will be more free-floating.
    Go try referee a game then and try do as you suggest. Do you ever see refs doing games like you say they should be? They dont for good reason

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      #77
      They don't because "things are fine as they are"

      But, you see, things could be greatly improved by, as Owen Doyle says, applying the current Laws.

      ​​​Are you telling me you don't agree with him?
      Last edited by Piquet; 28th-May-2019, 06:07.

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        #78
        Originally posted by ormond lad View Post
        And ye dont seem to have a feel for the game. You dont always penalise every offence that you see. Otherwise you have a terrible game. Nobody wants games to be decided by the whistle. Infringements should be directly material all the time.
        Its like at breakdown you dont penalise a player immediately just because you see them go off their feet. You often play on and have a word. Watch your actions at breakdown number (4/7/12 whatever).
        There will always be players on fringes of being offside you cant pull all/nearly all infringements of the offside law or there is far more

        Now you’re being silly. “I don’t have a feel for the game?” I just want the THREE paid officials to apply the offside law. Not long ago refs were very strict in coming through the gate, teams were penalized and learned not to come in the side fir fear of coughing up penalties result quicker ball and better games. Now there’s players everywhere ball is slower and attacking rugby is stifled.

        Only fools and drunks argue over everything. If you don’t have a hangover the next day you’re not the drunk...

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          #79
          Originally posted by ormond lad View Post
          And ye dont seem to have a feel for the game. You dont always penalise every offence that you see. Otherwise you have a terrible game. Nobody wants games to be decided by the whistle. Infringements should be directly material all the time.
          Its like at breakdown you dont penalise a player immediately just because you see them go off their feet. You often play on and have a word. Watch your actions at breakdown number (4/7/12 whatever).
          There will always be players on fringes of being offside you cant pull all/nearly all infringements of the offside law or there is far more

          I played in a game with an recent ex English championship player as the ref. He played to the letter of the law took no **** and everyone knew exactly where they stood. It was one of the best games I played in with respect to refereeing (thoroughly enjoyed it even though we lost). There was no stealing a yard or two, no slow rolling away, no holding on to the ball or player for a split second longer than you should after the tackle. We do all these things to try and gain an advantage or 'even things up' if we feel the ref isn't punishing them.

          When he did they almost entirely stopped, except for the odd player who didn't have as good an understanding of the laws that they should.

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            #80
            Balls.ie has an interesting story on the aftermath of the Nigels' Cup Final of 2018 involving Mr Barnes, Donnacha Ryan and Tadhg Furlong.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Piquet View Post
              Balls.ie has an interesting story on the aftermath of the Nigels' Cup Final of 2018 involving Mr Barnes, Donnacha Ryan and Tadhg Furlong.
              Thanks, you just ruined the Scotland match.

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