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    I think it's about time we had a thread for all thing boxing related, especially with a couple of huge fights coming up. To start things off: an article from the Ring portraying the sad demise of a great, along with some other stuff. is_hook/

    <h1>Jones not enticing us with this hook</span></h1>

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    Posted Aug. 9, 2009 at 03:20pm

    <h2>By William Dettloff</span></h2>

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    In case you’ve missed it, Roy Jones and Jeff Lacy are fighting one
    another Saturday night in Biloxi, Miss., on pay-per-view. Both guys
    have seen better days; Jones because he’s 40, or thereabouts, and Lacy
    because, well, depending on whom you ask, either Joe Calzaghe ruined
    him or he never was much to begin with.

    Whatever the case, it’s a reasonably interesting matchup that might
    prove entertaining, and given the current state of the contestants,
    it‘s not a big surprise that the fight came together: Who else is there
    for them to fight?

    What is surprising is that Jones showed up for the initial press
    conference in full pirate regalia, including a plastic hook in place of
    his left hand. The card is named “Hook City,” a reference to Lacy’s
    left hook moniker and Jones’ own left hook, which was once one of the
    most feared punches in the business. According to him, it still is.

    “I have the best left hook in the game,” Jones said at the press
    conference. “Jeff Lacy has a very good hook. So, when you get a
    challenge like that, how can you say no? You can’t, not where I come
    from. I don’t know any decent person who could, straight up.”

    That Jones said this while in full pirate costume – while Lacy was
    dressed appropriate to the century – is stunning, considering that in
    his salad days, Jones was loathe to promote a fight at all and if he
    showed up for press conferences, it typically was several hours late.

    It’s evidence too of the lengths to which fighters will go to promote
    themselves or an event, particularly if, as is the case here, the fight
    hasn’t generated a great deal of buzz or isn‘t likely to, for whatever

    Whole careers have been built around a fighter’s shtick. Think Hector
    Camacho’s eccentricity, or Jorge Paez’s penchant for shaving public
    service announcements into his scalp. Naseem Hamed’s act frightened and
    appalled an entire generation of purists, but also made him a
    millionaire several times over.

    George Foreman embraced the fat, cheeseburger-eating, self-deprecating
    persona thrust upon him by a suspicious media and made it work for him.
    Bernard Hopkins’ executioner motif was memorable, and Ricardo Mayorga
    still gets a little mileage out of his alleged cigarette habit.

    Want more?

    David Haye’s mouth and boorish behavior have gotten him opportunities
    disproportionate to his accomplishments, and club fighter Emanuel
    Augustus’ “Drunken Master” act has made him a cult hero. Of course,
    legends Muhammad Ali and Archie Moore were using shtick to sell tickets
    maybe before the word existed.

    But does the show business stuff really work?

    “Some think that a fighter who is willing to provide shtick is valuable
    to a promotion. They figure that if he does something ridiculous
    "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

    Good call.

    When is Darren Sutherland fighting next?


      Championship byes for Egan and Barnes
      Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 07:43 AM

      Olympic medallists Kenny Egan and Paddy Barnes will be in action next Saturday and Sunday at the 2009 AIBA World Senior Championships at the Mediolanum Forum in Milan.

      Both boxers, who were seeded for the tournament by virtue of being ranked in the top eight in the world, received byes into the last 32, along with Con Sheehan, who will also be in action next Sunday.

      Dublin flyweight Declan Geraghty will be the first Irish boxer in the ring when he takes on Manyo Plange of Ghana this morning.

      Draws for all categories listed here, right side of the page:

      Irish Squad:

      48Kg: (Light flyweight) Paddy Barnes
      51Kg: (Flyweight) Declan Geraghty
      54Kg: (Bantamweight) John Joe Nevin
      57Kg; (Featherweight) David Oliver Joyce
      60Kg: (Lightweight) Eric Donovan)
      64Kg: (Light welterweight) Philip Sutcliffe)
      69Kg: (Welterweight) Willie McLaughlin
      75Kg: (Middleweight) Darren O'Neill
      81Kg: (Light heavyweight) Ken Egan
      91Kg: (Heavyweight) Con Sheehan
      91+Kg: (Super heavyweight) Cathal McMonagle

      Darren O'Neill and Egan look to have gotten good draws. Con Sheehan has the world no 1 first up.


        Jones was a class act, he would have beaten Benn, Eubank and Collins together.


          Geraghty gets Irish challenge off to perfect start
          By Brendan Mooney

          Wednesday, September 02, 2009

          THE draw did Irish boxers few favours at the world boxing championships in Milan and this was reflected on the first day of competition when they met with mixed fortunes.

          Declan Geraghty got the Irish challenge off to the perfect start when he outpointed Mango Plange (Ghana) 12-5 in yesterday morning’s opener as 3 x 3 minute rounds were introduced for the first time since the 1996 Olympics alongside the new, revolutionary transparent scoring system.

          The latter innovation meant that the Dublin Docklands flyweight could see that he had won all the rounds en route to what was a clearcut victory – taking the first 3-2, the second 5-2 and the third 4-1 to highlight his fitness and finishing power. He now meets Mumin Veli (Macedonia) who defeated Julio Bria (Indonesia) 19-9 in their contest.

          Philip Sutcliffe failed to get through the preliminary stage of the tournament when he lost 12-5 to Romanian light welterweight Tralan Lupu.

          Sutcliffe, who boxes out of the Crumlin club in Dublin and whose father, also Philip, is a former European bronze medallist, was 2-0 down two minutes into the bout but drew level at 2-2 at the end of the opening round. However, Lupu, who beat Irish 2008 Olympian John Joe Joyce in Turkey earlier this year, was 7-5 ahead at the end of the second and added another five points to his total before the final bell.

          Last night super heavyweight, Cathal McMonagle, lost out to Thomas Markovic (Croatia), 14-5.

          This morning will see one of Ireland’s brightest prospects go into action when John Joe Nevin takes on a nifty bantamweight from Azerbaijan, Ramir Najafov, in what promises to be an exciting contest.

          The 22-year-old Mullingar man who boxes out of the Cavan club was still battling it through the under-age ranks in the lead up to the last world championships in Chicago two years ago. But he came out the following January to win his first national senior title and a place in the Irish team for the Olympic qualifier in Pescara where he not only qualified for Beijing but went on to win gold.

          If he comes through today’s assignment he will face either Nikola Magovac (Serbia) or, more likely, Omurbek Malubekov (Kazakhstan) on Friday for a place in the last 16.

          Also in action today will be middleweight, Darren O’Neill. The 23-year-old Paulstown southpaw finally emerged from the shadow of Olympic bronze medallist, Darren Sutherland, to claim his first national senior title this year.

          Today he meets Ranjan Shilpakar (Nepal) and a win will earn him a clash with either Stipicu Brekalo (Croatia) or Faria Aghayev (Azerbaijan) on Saturday for a place in the business end of the tournament.

          Tonight lightweight, Eric Donovan (St. Michael’s, Athy), gets his shot against Bakhodir Karimev (Tajikistan). The Athy southpaw had found Ross Hickey a handful in recent times but he came through from the qualifying tournament to claim his place in the team and a place in the last 32 against either Jai Bhagwan (India) or Angel Rodriguez (Venezuela) on Friday awaits the winner.

          Tomorrow morning will see Willie McLaughlin (Illies, Donegal) in action against Come Ndyshmiye while, in the afternoon, featherweight David Oliver Joyce (St. Michael’s, Athy) returns to top flight boxing to challenge Wuttichai Masulk (Thailand).

          Olympic bronze medallist, Paddy Barnes, has a Kenyan opponent for his opener on Saturday. An unlikely quarter finalist in Chicago two years ago, the diminutive Belfast man, was the first Irish boxer to gain Olympic qualification and then became the first to win a medal in Beijing last year.

          His opponent on Saturday is something of an unknown quantity, Peter Ungai, but some years ago the legendary Olympic athlete, Kip Keino, took over training of the boxers and the programme has produced som


            Impressive Nevin stars as Irish enjoy superb day in Milan
            By Brendan Mooney

            Thursday, September 03, 2009

            JOHN JOE NEVIN, Darren O’Neill and Eric Donovan all won their contests on what was an brilliant day for Irish boxers at the world championships in Milan yesterday.

            The hat-trick means that Ireland still have nine of the 11-man team remaining in the tournament with Olympic silver medallist, Kenny Egan, and bronze medallist, Paddy Barnes, both in action over the weekend.

            John Joe Nevin, who was bitterly disappointed with his performance in Beijing last year when he failed narrowly to make the quarter finals, left no doubt about his ambitions at those championships when he hammered out an emphatic 19-4 victory over Ramir Najafov (Azerbaijan) in an action-packed bantamweight opener.

            The 20-year-old Mullingar man – he boxes out of the Cavan club – left nothing to chance this time.

            He won the first round 6-2, the second 6-1 and the Swedish ref had to step in and give Najafov a standing count when Nevin caught him with a text-book combination on his way to winning the third 7-1.

            Nevin will now meet Nikola Magovac on Saturday for a place in the last 16. The Serbian beat Omurbek Malabekov (Kazakhstan) yesterday.

            Darren O’Neill went in against something of an unknown quantity in Rajan Shilpakar – one of just two Napalese boxers at the championships – who was a gold medallist at the Fifth National Games. But the Paulstown southpaw, a gold medallist at this year’s EU championships, took little time to assess the opposition. He caught his man repeatedly with an accurate right hand jab and some big left hooks to the head and body.

            He forced him to take two standing counts en route to winning the first round 18-0. He went on to snatch three more points without reply in the second and was leading 21-0 when the Venezuelan referee, Armando Villa Chirinos, stopped the contest.

            On Saturday afternoon O’Neill will meet Stipica Brekalo (Croatia) who beat Faria Agayev (Azerbaijan) 11-8 yesterday and that contest will be for a place in the last 16. Eric Donovan completed the hat-trick for Ireland when he outpointed Bakhodir Karimev (Tajikistan) 13-4 to qualify for a shot at Jai Bhagwan (India).

            The Athy southpaw, who spent a year in the shadow of Wicklow lightweight, Ross Hickey, and missed out on Olympic qualification as a result, dominated last night’s contest.

            He put all the punches together to win the first round 5-1, consolidated his position when he won the second 4-2 and then coasted to the final bell, winning the third 4-1.

            Jai Bhagwan outpointed a tricky Venezuelan, Angel Rodriguez, to complete that particular pairing for tomorrow’s contest for a place among the last 32. Donegal welterweight, Willie McLaughlin (Illies BC), will be in action this morning against Come Ndyshmiye (Burundi). The Donegal man is making his return to the top flight after suffering bruised ribs in the EU championships in the summer.

            This afternoon, featherweight David Oliver Joyce (St Michael’s, Athy) will have his hands full against Wuttichai Masulk (Thailand). The Mullingar man, however, showed all his old flair this year when he won his third national senior title and he followed that up with a second gold medal at the EU championships.

            European bantamweight champion, Luke Campbell, the only Englishman to win a medal at last year’s European championships in Liverpool, got his world championship campaign off to the perfect start when he outpointed the Pan American champion, Rey Vargas (Mexico) 17-3.

            Jesus Magdaleno, surprise winner of the US trials, committed practically no errors in his bout with Dimitrijs Gutmans of Latvia. The 17-year-old from Las Vegas dominated from the first bell to the last for a trouble-free 26-7 win.

            That win sets up an interesting confrontation on Saturday with Denis Makarov of Ge



              Originally posted by Skyhawk
              Jones was a class act, he would have beaten Benn, Eubank and <S&#079;NG>Collins</S&#079;NG> together.

              Someone should have told Jones that. Then he might have fought him.
              "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

              "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy

              "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn


                Joyce and McLaughlin into last 32 (not last 16 as it says below). Joyce was very impressive, the guy he dismantled was ranked 12 in the world. Joyce is ranked 50th. Has a tough one next though

                Joyce secures last-16 spot in Milan
                Thursday, 3 September 2009 20:07
                David Oliver Joyce recorded an emphatic 28-3 victory over Thai featherweight Wuttichai Masuk at the AIBA World Championships in Milan.

                Joyce, from the St Michael's Athy club, was on top from the start and forced Masuk into standing counts in the second and third rounds.

                The reigning European Union champion will now meet Mexico's Oscar Valdez in the last-16 next Sunday morning.

                Earlier today, Donegal welterweight Willie McLaughlin recorded Ireland's fourth win in a row at the Mediolanum Forum after earning an inside-the-distance victory over Come Ndyishmiye of Burundi.

                McLaughlin was 6-0 up when the ref halted the contest in the first round after Ndyishmiye took his second standing count.

                McLaughlin will face Vedic Velibor of Bosnia & Herzegovina on Sunday.

                Nine Irish boxers are now through to the last-32 phase.

                Declan Geraghty and Eric Donovan will both be in action on Friday.


                  Egan and McLaughlin both won today and are now into the quarter finals, one win from a medal. John Joe Nevin is next up tonight in his last 16 fight.

                  Declan Geraghty and Darren O'Neill are both still there too. They fight tomorrow in the last 16.

                  Paddy Barnes was knocked out at the weekend, big shock. Wasnt too happy about it either, got sent home for his conduct in the ring after. Con Sheehan, David Oliver Joyce and Eric Donovan all gone too over the weekend.


                    John Joe Nevin just guaranteed himself a Bronze medal. Won his quarter final 7-5 against Yu Gu of China. Willie McLaughlin and Ken Egan up soon. All live here:



                      Willie McLaughlin just went out, 17-6 to a Russian. In fairness he put up a good fight. Seems to be very difficult to come back if you give up an early few points. The guy with the lead is able to defend and counter punch, which is what happened here...


                        Egan gone too now...Well beaten by a French guy


                          Originally posted by Balla Boy

                          Originally posted by Skyhawk
                          Jones was a class act, he would have beaten Benn, Eubank and <S&#079;NG>Collins</S&#079;NG> together.

                          Someone should have told Jones that. Then he might have fought him.

                          Would love to have seen the fight but i reckon Jones back then would have taken him.

                          Jones was basically untouchable in his prime.Arguably one of the greatest pound for pounders of all time.

                          Would have been good to watch though. They have 1 notable common opponent,Mike "the body snatcher" Mccallum. Jones beat him handily on points,whereas Collins lost a tough fight on points.
                          g\'wan bruff!!

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                            i think nigel benn at his best would have taken jones

                            and eubank for that matter, before he f**ked that guy up he was an animal as well as being technically brilliant



                              Originally posted by nuke
                              i think nigel benn at his best would have taken jones

                              and eubank for that matter, before he f**ked that guy up he was an animal as well as being technically brilliant

                              No chance. Jones is technically one of the best boxers of all time. Any of the greats would have had problems with him.
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