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    England in trouble?


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    They're 25 - 3 needing 300-odd to win. Can the black caps do it?

    G'wan New Zealand.

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      30 - 4 now!
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        59 - 5 now! Go you blackcaps!
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          60 - 6! [img]smileys/cool.gif[/img]
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            61 - 7 this is humiliation! [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]
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              67 - 8&nbsp ; [img]smileys/razz.gif[/img]
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                77 - 9
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                  All over - England 110 all out and lose by 189 runs!
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                    Originally posted by Old Dog

                    All over - England 110 all out and lose by 189 runs!

                    Thats incredible, on a pitch like that it looked like a boring draw. Havent seen a score card but Eng were scoring at 1-2 / over on a real flat pitch, where did all the wickets come from.
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                      Surprise, surprise. The wickets came from good line and length, aided by tentative and slip-shod batting. Mill's pitch map says it all: everything on a dead-straight line and wickets coming from banging it into a comatose pitch.

                      Cook gave his wicket away to start the rot; Vaughan was caught on his crease; Pietersen was put back in his box by a bouncer, never moved his front foot for the rest of his short innings and was undone by leaving one he should have been right up to the pitch of; the world and their mothers have worked Strauss out and Collingwood couldn't buy a run. It says a lot when Monty had the 4th-highest score in England's second innings scorecard. Bell's unbeaten score of 54 not out and the last-wicket stand of 33 means the pitch can't be blamed, at least for England's poor second innings.

                      Slightly worrying for England is that it's been a while since Vaughan or Pietersen had a really big knock. Cook, Bell and Collingwood are solid but the Black Caps showed a way to get at Pietersen: bounce him until he stops coming forward, then catch him coming across the line or with a surprise one that nips back. With Flintoff still out, my guess is they'll give Strauss at least one more Test to justify his place. The absolutely shocking preparation of the pitch has possibly saved him and the England management team will want to see how he performs on a pitch where the ball comes onto the bat a little more.

                      More worrying surely is the fact that England have one front-line bowler in Ryan Sidebottom, who realistically in a more productive line-up would be a phenomenal first-change. My reading of the infamous Harmison interview is that the man, who has been on a blindingly-obvious decline since 2004, couldn't care less whether he plays for England, although he may not realise it himself. He's a hometown boy, not an international cricketer and the sooner he goes home to be a decent first class bowler the better. Now there's a man that, in thirty years time, will realise that you are a long time retired.

                      Hoggie will come good as soon as he is match-fit but he needs to have a proper quick at the other end to be offering something different. Broad is close, probably not ready yet but neither he nor Tremlett can be any worse than Harmison (averaging 6.00 in the second innings).

                      I for one cannot wait to see if we have a decent pitch in Wellington. In a lot of respects this test was ruined by the groundsman and could signify nothing.
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                        Trust England to make a weak test side look good, imagine what could have happened if Shane Bond was playing.


                        Sidebottom and Monty must be kicking themselves for removing NZ so quickly, they should have known the collapse was coming.
                        "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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                          Paul Collingwood made an impressive 2 runs from 50 balls.


                          Talk about really going for it.........


                          Great spectacle though
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