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    Santa Claus banned from Germany !!!

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    Santa Claus is being banned from Christmas markets in Germany and Austria.


    Anti-Santa campaigners claim Father Christmas was invented by Coca-Cola and detracts from the true spirit of the festive season.





    Austria's biggest Christmas market is in front of the Vienna city hall where thousands of visitors march past stalls offering everything related to Xmas - except Santa.


    The only Santa to be seen is the one in the middle of the occasional 'Ban Santa' stickers.


    A Vienna city hall spokesman confirmed: "There are rules governing what stallholders can do and one of them is to agree not to use the image of santa as a condition of being able to trade there.


    "Santa is an English language creation, people who want to see him should go to America where I am sure Coca Cola will be happy to oblige."


    The move in Vienna has been followed by Christmas markets across Austria and Germany where St Nicholas is the traditional bearer of Christmas gifts.


    Bettina Schade, from the Frankfurter Nicholas Initiative in Germany, said: "We object to the material things, the hectic rush to buy gifts, and the ubiquity of the bearded man in the red suit that are taking away from the core meaning of Christmas.


    "The Christian origins of Christmas, like the birth of Jesus, have receded into the background. It's becoming more and more a festival that is reduced to simply worldly gifts and commerce."

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    St Nicholas who arrives on the night of the 5th December would indeed be the more traditional gift bringer in that part of the world alright.
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      #3
      They're right too, the Santa that we all know was invented by Coca Cola in the 1920's.[img]smileys/thumb-down.gif[/img]
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        #4
        Oh yeah? Gas chambers now for Santa's too! I don't care who invented him, the kids love it. Barney is not real either, or big bird or most other things that children Love and cherish. Let's just ban them all and have a big bonfire. What will thy think of next?[img]smileys/mad.gif[/img]


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          #5
          Santa does not really feature in Germany &amp; Austria boo - boo. Think they are right.
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            Originally posted by Boo-boo
            Oh yeah? Gas chambers now for Santa's too! I don't care who invented him, the kids love it. Barney is not real either, or big bird or most other things that children Love and cherish. Let's just ban them all and have a big bonfire.
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            <DIV>sarcastic or not, I completely agree.[img]smileys/lol.gif[/img]</DIV>
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              #7
              When I was younger, I used to think that Jolly old St. Nic was Santa.
              When I was told that they were different people, I couldn't understand
              why only Santa was giving me presents, and didn't think it was either
              saintly or jolly to stiff me on Christmas morning.

              To get a bit nerdy about it, unusual for me, I think it is a heavy handed
              attempt to protect traditional Austrian and German culture and to fight
              back against a fairly relentless tide of commercialism and cultural
              imperialism, which, while laudable in it's own right, can be done is a
              more supportive and less precriptive way.

              Or something.

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                #8

                Originally posted by McCloud
                Santa does not really feature in Germany &amp; Austria boo - boo. Think they are right.
                Well if we're on the subject of Christmas, maybe they should ban Jesus too! He orginated in Nazareth![img]smileys/lol.gif[/img]

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                  #9


                  Folks sorry to have to burst the bubble on this but 30 years ago, Vienna, Prague (and many other German/E.European cities) were claiming their Santawas the true spirit of Christmas.... That the French called him Père Noël or the Italians Babbo Natale is neither here nor there. As is the fact that many individuals, companies and organisations have sought to make profit from the legend(s) down through the ages (&amp; well before a certain new Englander patented a secret recipe...). And of course various religious and chuch interests took umbrage atdifferent stages over various perceived misrepresentations or (again perceived) hijackings. The PC-brigade have been trying to ban his helpers (Zwarte Piets)in Holland for years.It is a legend that has thrived and been loved by generations across many cultural barriers through the centuries. That some killjoy now wants to banfun is neither new nor relevant. It's a great opportunity for some enterprising person to make whoever made the decision look very silly. Santa (or Daidi na Nollag even) will be around for a long time to come.


                  And you all know that Communist Russia also banned Santa.


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                    #10
                    Feckin' Germans and Austrians are turning commie on us! [img]smileys/shock.gif[/img]

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                      #11
                      I love Santa (or Santy as we used to call him). I love him so much that I'd like nothing better than to find a nice fit, young, man dressed as Santa under my Christmas tree........

                      The Santas they have in Shannon that my friend and I visit every year aren't young or fit. Fingers crossed for this year

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                        Originally posted by Boo-boo
                        Oh yeah? Gas chambers now for Santa's too! I don't care who invented him, the kids love it. Barney is not real either, or big bird or most other things that children Love and cherish. Let's just ban them all and have a big bonfire. What will thy think of next?[img]smileys/mad.gif[/img]

                        Since you mentionedGas Chambers, the Nazi High Command actually wanted to keep Christmas, though they were opposed to many other religious holidays (and indeed obviously enough,religion itself in some guises). Goebbles actually commented on the time it was worth keeping "for the children", he later (or perhaps his wife) poisoned all but one of his kids as the Russians encircled Berlin.


                        Pointless fact, but there you go.
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                          #13

                          Originally posted by JoeyFantastic

                          Originally posted by Boo-boo
                          Oh yeah? Gas chambers now for Santa's too! I don't care who invented him, the kids love it. Barney is not real either, or big bird or most other things that children Love and cherish. Let's just ban them all and have a big bonfire. What will thy think of next?[img]smileys/mad.gif[/img]

                          Since you mentionedGas Chambers, the Nazi High Command actually wanted to keep Christmas, though they were opposed to many other religious holidays (and indeed obviously enough,religion itself in some guises). Goebbles actually commented on the time it was worth keeping "for the children", he later (or perhaps his wife) poisoned all but one of his kids as the Russians encircled Berlin.


                          Pointless fact, but there you go.
                          Not such a pointless fact as it serves as a reminder to what it is we should be getting upset about rather than trivail things like banning Santa.

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                            #14


                            I think we're all dancing around the real, hard-hitting issue here people. How could someone who has such an obvious and glaring problem with obesity fit down the average chimney?


                            Furthermore, if everyone is leaving out a glass of whiskey for him wouldn't he be completely langers after 20 or so houses? The government just aren't doing enough to combat drink sledding.
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