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    Originally posted by lawrence View Post
    A bold and courageous move by Trump to be the first US sitting president to go to North Korea. His work in bringing KJ to the table could be a great legacy of his tenure and do great things for the oppressed people of North Korea. Well done.
    He's a great man, the greatest.
    When things go wrong, blame McGahan

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      Originally posted by B.A. View Post

      He's a great man, the greatest.
      That might be overstating it slightly, but credit where credit is due.

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        Originally posted by lawrence View Post

        That might be overstating it slightly, but credit where credit is due.
        OR, he might be hoping to change the narrative away from the Putin laughey jokey quip about meddling in 2020 again, or Mueller coming to the hill, or the Dem debate groundswell, or the latest rape allegation, or the fact he thinks 'Western Liberalism' is about people in California and the west coast of america.

        Or the fact Jimmy Carter just called him a phony prez.


        The only certainty I would have in all of his actions at the DMZ were that they were 100% about him and 0% about people in NK. He does nothing for anyone but himself. Ever.
        I am the million man.

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          The biggliest photo op EVER. Cofefe
          "There are a lot of points that we’ve left behind and this is with a young group. That probably tells you what they’re capable of and that they’re a very good side.

          Probably next year or the year after next they will take some stopping"

          Anthony Foley, May 2016. Axel RIP

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            Originally posted by Cowboy View Post

            OR, he might be hoping to change the narrative away from the Putin laughey jokey quip about meddling in 2020 again, or Mueller coming to the hill, or the Dem debate groundswell, or the latest rape allegation, or the fact he thinks 'Western Liberalism' is about people in California and the west coast of america.

            Or the fact Jimmy Carter just called him a phony prez.


            The only certainty I would have in all of his actions at the DMZ were that they were 100% about him and 0% about people in NK. He does nothing for anyone but himself. Ever.
            If you want to look at any political figure from an overall point of view it won’t look well, look at Clinton, a liar, cheater, fraudster but his involvement in Northern Ireland made a difference, taken in isolation this work by Trump is commendable and courageous.

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              Originally posted by lawrence View Post
              A bold and courageous move by Trump to be the first US sitting president to go to North Korea. His work in bringing KJ to the table could be a great legacy of his tenure and do great things for the oppressed people of North Korea. Well done.
              I was kind of hoping (for your sake) that you were being sarcastic but it seems you weren't. That 'assessment' is possibly the most naive comment I've ever seen anywhere and betrays a level of naïveté that the term clueless cannot do justice to. Somewhere about 100 levels below 'cluelessness'.

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                Originally posted by tippete7trees View Post

                I was kind of hoping (for your sake) that you were being sarcastic but it seems you weren't. That 'assessment' is possibly the most naive comment I've ever seen anywhere and betrays a level of naïveté that the term clueless cannot do justice to. Somewhere about 100 levels below 'cluelessness'.
                As I said when you look at this in isolation he is doing excellent work, if you examine any political figure, and none more so than the potus, they will on balance be a disappointment. Most people have such a dislike
                of Trump that they cannot abide him doing anything positive and either ignore or reframe it to continually to suit their own dislike of the man.

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                  Originally posted by lawrence View Post

                  If you want to look at any political figure from an overall point of view it won’t look well, look at Clinton, a liar, cheater, fraudster but his involvement in Northern Ireland made a difference, taken in isolation this work by Trump is commendable and courageous.
                  It's not. He's made the situation worse. Kim is a mad murderer who is looking to exploit Trump's weaknesses to bolster his own position. Every serious expert on Nth Korea sees it this way. When he met Kim the 1st time, which was a shambles, he afterwards prompted his staff to nominate him for the Nobel peace prize. Laughed out of Sweden of course. This is nonsense never before seen post WW2 in the West. Kim is not some lonely alienated trier who just needs a hug to get him to play ball. He considers Nth Korean 'socialism' far superior to the US capitalism, will not dismantle his nukes for umpteen reasons but hopes to bump Trump into easing sanctions to go with the kudos of poncing around with world leaders and boost his image in Nth Korea. Trump thinks everybody thinks like him and Kim can be bought. Kim doesn't need money, he needs power. Trump has to keep up the charade of progress as a fig leaf to cover the mess he's made, hopefully to persist with hugging and love letters until they get beyond 2020. Another big danger is that when Trump realizes Kim has been playing him for the eejit he is - Trump might try something drastic and get us into a war.

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                    Originally posted by tippete7trees View Post

                    It's not. He's made the situation worse. Kim is a mad murderer who is looking to exploit Trump's weaknesses to bolster his own position. Every serious expert on Nth Korea sees it this way. When he met Kim the 1st time, which was a shambles, he afterwards prompted his staff to nominate him for the Nobel peace prize. Laughed out of Sweden of course. This is nonsense never before seen post WW2 in the West. Kim is not some lonely alienated trier who just needs a hug to get him to play ball. He considers Nth Korean 'socialism' far superior to the US capitalism, will not dismantle his nukes for umpteen reasons but hopes to bump Trump into easing sanctions to go with the kudos of poncing around with world leaders and boost his image in Nth Korea. Trump thinks everybody thinks like him and Kim can be bought. Kim doesn't need money, he needs power. Trump has to keep up the charade of progress as a fig leaf to cover the mess he's made, hopefully to persist with hugging and love letters until they get beyond 2020. Another big danger is that when Trump realizes Kim has been playing him for the eejit he is - Trump might try something drastic and get us into a war.

                    As I said, some people have so much hatred that they can’t look at anything objectively, with you its all ending by “us” getting into a war. Tell me more about who “us” is that will be at war with North Korea, and then when your done rowing back on that one enlighten me as to how political dialogue at the highest level has made this situation worse.

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                      Originally posted by lawrence View Post


                      As I said, some people have so much hatred that they can’t look at anything objectively, with you its all ending by “us” getting into a war. Tell me more about who “us” is that will be at war with North Korea, and then when your done rowing back on that one enlighten me as to how political dialogue at the highest level has made this situation worse.
                      There's no point Larry. You're hopelessly out of your depth.

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                        Originally posted by tippete7trees View Post

                        There's no point Larry. You're hopelessly out of your depth.
                        So you can’t. Figures.

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                          US, Lawrence, US.

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                            Originally posted by Piquet View Post
                            US, Lawrence, US.
                            So us as in us or do you mean us as in US or even us as in U.S? Just so us all don’t get confused.

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                              You left out U.S. , lawrence.

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                                There's nothing authentic about Trump. Everything is for his ego and grandiose self regard, as has been mentioned above. His father, a very perverse individual, manipulated him into a cute cheating grifter using money and lawyers to game the system. He's done the same to his own children.Totally soulless like all the truly corrupt. His brother failed the father's course and is a washed up alcoholic. He's admired by the large cohort of others without any soul cos he gives them hope they can be winners.

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