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    Originally posted by Cowboy View Post
    To those who have read more around the topic I have a question, is the Alt-Right movement piggybacking on Trumps momentum or are there quantifiable ties between them and his organisation?

    I am only learning of things like Richard Spencer getting his clock cleaned and 'The Deploraball' in the last few days

    Alt-Right seems like Fascism plain and simple?

    Alt-Right ranges from fascism to flat out neo-nazism. The explicit link to Trump is primarily through Steve Bannon, who was CEO of Breitbart. He was Trump's campaign chief, and is now a senior advisor. He's also a misogynyst, racist anti-semite.

    Trumps links with the American far right go back to his championing of the Birther movement, which was packed full of racist head-de-balls.
    "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

    "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


    "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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      Originally posted by lawrence View Post
      I didn't read past that.
      Journalists report on poll numbers, they don't call results. The polls heavily favoured Clinton. The polls had flaws (or were rigged if you believe that hairy sack of mandarins).

      The general trend of reporting was towards a Clinton win because that's the result that the various prediction models favoured. 538.com had called 99 out of 100 States in the previous two elections and it blew up in their face. Trump and Trump voters got far more coverage in print and online media. I'm not sure what more the media in America could have done besides the Washington Post sending a reporter to Alabama to interview every lad with a confederate flag hanging from his pickup truck to ask him why he's so sad (answer: blacks can vote).

      Michael Moore is no savant, his prediction would likely have fallen flat if the FBI hadn't gotten involved.
      "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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        Originally posted by Jenta View Post
        Journalists report on poll numbers, they don't call results. The polls heavily favoured Clinton. The polls had flaws (or were rigged if you believe that hairy sack of mandarins).

        The general trend of reporting was towards a Clinton win because that's the result that the various prediction models favoured. 538.com had called 99 out of 100 States in the previous two elections and it blew up in their face. Trump and Trump voters got far more coverage in print and online media. I'm not sure what more the media in America could have done besides the Washington Post sending a reporter to Alabama to interview every lad with a confederate flag hanging from his pickup truck to ask him why he's so sad (answer: blacks can vote).

        Michael Moore is no savant, his prediction would likely have fallen flat if the FBI hadn't gotten involved.
        Comey reappointed - the man who wouldnt comment on ongoing investigations into Russian hacks but had no compunction in revealing new investigation into HRC mails - quelle surprise

        Not sure was it here or on a different site but read some well regarded analyst who looked into the daily polls saw HRC fall 4 pts after FBI intervened on emails - (she did regain 2 of these)
        "I've got lots of potatos that need peeling and manure that needs shovelling" -M. Burns :_skull__rvmp_by_bad

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          Originally posted by SkullinPints View Post
          Comey reappointed - the man who wouldnt comment on ongoing investigations into Russian hacks but had no compunction in revealing new investigation into HRC mails - quelle surprise

          Not sure was it here or on a different site but read some well regarded analyst who looked into the daily polls saw HRC fall 4 pts after FBI intervened on emails - (she did regain 2 of these)
          http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...l-weeks-survey

          I don't think there can be much doubt about how much the last two weeks and that email nonsense swung it towards Trump.


          In other news, this man is in the early stages of dementia:

          https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/2...ing-fraud.html
          "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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            He's a showman, and good at optics, all this Executive orders stuff is mainly baloney, they in most cases have to be backed up with legislation, something that can take a long time.
            Still for an aspiring tinpot dictator it's good press
            Nulla semper amicus, servivit mihi, in iniuriam mihi neminem quem non persolvi

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              His latest wheeze is a weekly list of crimes committed by immigrants.

              http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7546826.html

              There's far too much of this "do Liberals in their ivory tower understand what's driven people to this" stuff going on.

              Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million. She polled 70,000 fewer votes than Obama in 2012. Trump polled a million and a bit more than Romney.

              So, there's the email thing. Beyond that, there was a minor swing in some rust belt counties that were pretty close last time out too.

              Both interesting, and it's certainly a wonder that a candidate as weak as Trump wasn't blown out of the water. But either way you're talking about 1-2% of the total voters. The vast majority voted as they always have and will in a country that's been spilt 50/50 for a very long time.

              The Democrats need to respond effectively, and there are some questions about what that looks like, but the notion that Liberal America was cast adrift and needs to put on sack cloth and ashes to Trump voters is a nonsense.

              Next time out, the Democrats need a better candidate, and they need to not take their "firewall" for granted.

              Because the main thing that's been established is that Republicans will vote for pretty much any ****er going.
              "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

              "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


              "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                Oh, and in the meantime stop the Republican steps to rig the next election. Already under way...

                https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...n-explanations
                "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

                "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


                "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                  People being hounded to self-reflect: Those who seemingly failed to realise what would drive people to vote for a candidate as stomach-churningly awful as Donald Trump.

                  People not being hounded to self-reflect: Those who voted for the same stomach-churningly awful candidate.
                  "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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                    President Trump Says He Believes That Torture Works


                    In an interview with ABC News, Trump said he would wage war against Islamic State militants with the singular goal of keeping the U.S. safe. Asked specifically about the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, Trump cited the extremist group's atrocities against Christians and others and said: "We have to fight fire with fire."
                    Trump said he would consult with new Defense Secretary James Mattis and CIA Director Mike Pompeo before authorizing any new policy. But he said he had asked top intelligence officials in the past day: "Does torture work?"
                    "And the answer was yes, absolutely," Trump said.
                    He added that he wants to do "everything within the bounds of what you're allowed to do legally."









                    Last edited by Cowboy; 26th-January-2017, 15:13.
                    I am the million man.

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                      I like the former Mexican Presidents response to the suggestion that they will pay for the wall:

                      'We're not paying for the f***king wall' :)

                      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7546696.html
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                        Steve Bannon registered to vote in two states despite Trump's cries of 'voter fraud

                        A senior White House adviser to Donald Trump is registered to vote in two different states, a practice that the US president wrongly claimed amounted to electoral fraud on Wednesday as he called for an inquiry.

                        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/steve-bannon-voter-registration-trump-election-voter-fraud

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                          Originally posted by fitzy73 View Post
                          I like the former Mexican Presidents response to the suggestion that they will pay for the wall:

                          'We're not paying for the f***king wall' :)

                          http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7546696.html
                          Looks like early morning Tweets are the new world order form of 'diplomacy'. Trump tells Mexico to get lost as well.

                          http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world...wall-1.2952023
                          Nulla semper amicus, servivit mihi, in iniuriam mihi neminem quem non persolvi

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                            #****ingwall

                            :D
                            I am the million man.

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                              Originally posted by Balla Boy View Post
                              His latest wheeze is a weekly list of crimes committed by immigrants.

                              http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7546826.html

                              There's far too much of this "do Liberals in their ivory tower understand what's driven people to this" stuff going on.

                              Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million. She polled 70,000 fewer votes than Obama in 2012. Trump polled a million and a bit more than Romney.

                              So, there's the email thing. Beyond that, there was a minor swing in some rust belt counties that were pretty close last time out too.

                              Both interesting, and it's certainly a wonder that a candidate as weak as Trump wasn't blown out of the water. But either way you're talking about 1-2% of the total voters. The vast majority voted as they always have and will in a country that's been spilt 50/50 for a very long time.

                              The Democrats need to respond effectively, and there are some questions about what that looks like, but the notion that Liberal America was cast adrift and needs to put on sack cloth and ashes to Trump voters is a nonsense.

                              Next time out, the Democrats need a better candidate, and they need to not take their "firewall" for granted.

                              Because the main thing that's been established is that Republicans will vote for pretty much any ****er going.
                              Apparently this list will focus on crimes committed by immigrants in "shelter" or "sanctuary" cities or states. It doesn't clarify whether it will limit itself to undocumented immigrants or all immigrants.

                              Oh, and in the meantime, there is no national register of deaths at police hands.

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                                "The State Department's entire senior level of management officials resigned Wednesday, The Washington Post reported."

                                http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...resigns-report


                                Honestly this stuff is happening too fast to keep up.
                                "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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