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    More motoring offences thrown out of court on some technicality dreamt up by the judge. Lately,as well,a few people up for drunken driving didn't have their licences cancelled because the judge said they needed them for their jobs. What's the point of the Guards,the Road Safety Authority and others bothering when this is the response from the Judiciary? What's the point of the vast majority of us observing the speed limits,the drink driving laws when those who don't can get away with on the whim of some unaccountable individual who is supposed to play a part in seeing the law is upheld? Is there any way these people can be called on to justify/explain their decisions. If there isn't there should be.
    The early bird catches the worm but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese.

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    Listened to that on the radio this morning on the speeding it does sound as if the cases from yesterday did have a couple of valid points. 2 of the speeders were shown the same speed readout! From the sound of it, it's a bit of lazy law making and ill thought out procedures. No suprise there I guess.
    Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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      Originally posted by McCloud


      Listened to that on the radio this morning on the speeding it does sound as if the cases from yesterday did have a couple of valid points. 2 of the speeders were shown the same speed readout! From the sound of it, it's a bit of lazy law making and ill thought out procedures. No suprise there I guess.


      Yes,McCloud thecase of thetwo motorists being given the same reading was totally brainless and I have no problemwith it being thrown out. It shouldn't have been there in the first place.
      The early bird catches the worm but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese.

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        McDowell says new legislation not required


        23 November 2006 11:39
        The Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Michael McDowell, has told the Dáil that no new legislation will be required to deal with the dismissal of a number of traffic cases at the District Court in Waterford.


        Judge Terence Finn yesterday struck out 17 charges - including speeding offences - because the garda could not produce an original copy of the offence in court.


        Mr McDowell said that on a preliminary examination of the issue he believed it could be dealt with administratively.

        The problem relates to how speeding offences are logged in the garda computer system.


        When a garda stops a motorist with a hand held speed gun for speeding and issues them with a fine, the garda goes back to the station and puts the gun into a docking system, which then uploads the details of the offence to a central system in Dublin.


        This is the Fixed Penalty Office, which has subcontracted part of its work to a private company.


        This private company sends out the fine to the motorist. The letter is sent out by normal post, not registered mail.


        If the motorist does not pay the fine, a summons is issued and the motorist must appear in court.


        But when the court case comes up, the judge can ask the garda if he has a copy of the original offence. The garda does not as the Fixed Penalty Office does not send him one nor does the private company.


        Some judges may not ask for this copy, and if the solicitor does not raise the matter, prosecution follows.


        This new centralised Dublin system for processing motoring offences was only introduced earlier this year and this may be the first case of its kind in the country.
        Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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