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    Originally posted by the plastic paddy View Post
    So what is Ireland going to do a fortnight today?
    Pray..

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      Originally posted by the plastic paddy View Post
      So what is Ireland going to do a fortnight today?
      We're thinking about having another Mass

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      "There are a lot of points that we’ve left behind and this is with a young group. That probably tells you what they’re capable of and that they’re a very good side.

      Probably next year or the year after next they will take some stopping"

      Anthony Foley, May 2016. Axel RIP

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        Originally posted by the plastic paddy View Post

        And a No Deal Brexit, complete with threats to medicine supplies that keep my daughter alive, looking like the likely outcome. Pleased you think it has been a good week.
        I wish I was in control of this process, in that case you're family would be treated the same as mine, inviolable, precious, untouchable.

        Of course, we're used to commenting on here about anything and everything as if we're not affected, but of course we are, not all of us all the time, but some of us are, most of the time.

        I am sorry that your feeling the stress of this so much, and I'm sure you're not alone.

        If it happens, and you need meds, please DM me and I will do what I can to get them and I'll take them to you myself.

        I'm sure I'm not alone making that promise here.
        Munster – Champions of Europe 2006, 2008, 2019.

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          Originally posted by glorob View Post
          Another defeat for the Prime Minister. Deficit only 58 this time.

          Maybe she will now get the message.
          https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eal-third-time



          The old hag got the message all right, she wants to go for a 4th Vote next week.

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            People who think a reversal of Brexit would be the best option underestimate the damage the UK has done to its relationship with the EU. SFA has been achieved in the EU in the last 2 years because of this circus. The best thing now is for the EU to lance the boil and hold the damage done to the UK up as an example to any other members which might fancy an exit.

            Any rejoining will take a generation I would guess.

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              Originally posted by desert man View Post
              People who think a reversal of Brexit would be the best option underestimate the damage the UK has done to its relationship with the EU. SFA has been achieved in the EU in the last 2 years because of this circus. The best thing now is for the EU to lance the boil and hold the damage done to the UK up as an example to any other members which might fancy an exit.

              Any rejoining will take a generation I would guess.
              I dont think the UK was particularly well thought od within the "EU" beforehand - due to it sitting on the fence (at best) and the tories grumbling about it (for at least the entirety of my lifetime)
              I'd agree I think Brussels just wants rid and to get on with business
              I cant see the UK rejoining (or rather being allowed to rejoin) in the remainder of my lifetime
              The EU are fully aware that the leavers will never shut up - and indeed wont shut up even once we have left - everything will be the EU's fault for the next 10-15 years and then they will just find someone else to blame

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                Originally posted by desert man View Post
                People who think a reversal of Brexit would be the best option underestimate the damage the UK has done to its relationship with the EU. SFA has been achieved in the EU in the last 2 years because of this circus. The best thing now is for the EU to lance the boil and hold the damage done to the UK up as an example to any other members which might fancy an exit.

                Any rejoining will take a generation I would guess.
                Possible food shortages in the UK and Ireland, definite medicine shortages in both, and a catalyst for deep global recession. The UK would experience a depression that would make 2007 look like fun days, and Ireland would lose over 80,000 jobs.

                That's not lancing a boil, that's cutting off your head because you have a headache.
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                  Obergruppenfuhrer Rees Mogg has the 'air of a Nazi zealot.
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                    Groundhog day as mps reject all propositions in indicative votes.
                    once again demonstrating they know what they dont want but havent a clue what they really want

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                      Originally posted by fitzy73 View Post

                      Possible food shortages in the UK and Ireland, definite medicine shortages in both, and a catalyst for deep global recession. The UK would experience a depression that would make 2007 look like fun days, and Ireland would lose over 80,000 jobs.

                      That's not lancing a boil, that's cutting off your head because you have a headache.
                      The 80k job losses figure is not true, and has been misreported.

                      Firstly it’s reported elsewhere that the figure is 50k and secondly it’s not job losses, it’s “Ireland's 2.3-million-strong workforce would create 80,000 fewer jobs over the next 10 years”

                      There is a big difference, it’s saying that the economy will
                      continue to grow, just not at the current rates - (which have been the highest in Europe every year for the last 5 years)

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                        Originally posted by lawrence View Post

                        The 80k job losses figure is not true, and has been misreported.

                        Firstly it’s reported elsewhere that the figure is 50k and secondly it’s not job losses, it’s “Ireland's 2.3-million-strong workforce would create 80,000 fewer jobs over the next 10 years”

                        There is a big difference, it’s saying that the economy will
                        continue to grow, just not at the current rates - (which have been the highest in Europe every year for the last 5 years)
                        Pascal reckons it's a "conservative" 40,000 and 6% knocked off the economy.
                        https://www.breakingnews.ie/business...oe-902405.html

                        Whatever the figure, a no deal is going to be catastrophic for Ireland.

                        Those Irish people who are experiencing a sense of schadenfreude about the Brits would want to remember that.
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                          No fitzy, it's 40,000 fewer new jobs and 6% knocked off the growth of the economy.

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                            Originally posted by desert man View Post
                            People who think a reversal of Brexit would be the best option underestimate the damage the UK has done to its relationship with the EU. SFA has been achieved in the EU in the last 2 years because of this circus. The best thing now is for the EU to lance the boil and hold the damage done to the UK up as an example to any other members which might fancy an exit.

                            Any rejoining will take a generation I would guess.
                            Rejoining? They havent left yet, sometimes retracing your steps isnt the worst option, no shame in reversing Brexit which is the sensible thing to do. The people were lied to and mislead hence their vote should be viewed as obsolete.
                            \"Only Pienaar, Botha and Ferris would be in contention for a place on our first 15. That\'s a fact.\" - Tickettout\'s take on Ulster April 2011.

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                              Originally posted by Piquet View Post
                              No fitzy, it's 40,000 fewer new jobs and 6% knocked off the growth of the economy.
                              Yes, I know that.

                              The point being that in the event of a no deal I think it won't be 40,000 fewer new jobs, but a lot of current jobs that will be hit.

                              Thats before you factor in medicines, food, fuel etc ....
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                                Originally posted by lawrence View Post

                                The 80k job losses figure is not true, and has been misreported.

                                Firstly it’s reported elsewhere that the figure is 50k and secondly it’s not job losses, it’s “Ireland's 2.3-million-strong workforce would create 80,000 fewer jobs over the next 10 years”

                                There is a big difference, it’s saying that the economy will
                                continue to grow, just not at the current rates - (which have been the highest in Europe every year for the last 5 years)
                                Very hard to see how a hard deal brexit is not going to see a recession in Ireland. And it is going to be over the next 18 months, we will have food shortages and price rises.
                                Seven social sins: politics without principles, wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, and worship without sacrifice



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