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    Originally posted by fitzy73 View Post
    The Minister for Brexit (and his deputy) resigned. Not the Housing minster. Nor the Transport minister. The actual fella who was supposed to lead Britain out of the EU.

    And this isn't the end of it, not by a long way.
    He hasnt actually been doing anything. He has been humiliated repeatedly by turning up to 'negotiate' with the EU without anything to say because his own side couldnt agree. His final humiliation was being told by May (at the same time as the other ministers) what the Brexit plan was.

    It is like having a Cabinet away day to discuss transport plans and the transport minister is informed what is going to be built - in front of his colleagues - and that his preferred infrastructure project has been scrapped.
    Last edited by AdolphusGrigson; 9th-July-2018, 13:13.
    ​​​​​​#GiveLeinsterTheHCupNow

    Originally Posted by mr chips
    AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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      Boris gone.
      ​​​​​​#GiveLeinsterTheHCupNow

      Originally Posted by mr chips
      AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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        May's time is running out.
        "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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          Originally posted by Jenta View Post
          Brexit's time is running out.
          Fixed it for you..

          Honestly what next?

          Leadership contest.. she'll scrape through...

          2nd referendum.. on the back of a World Cup win..


          it's coming home... the chicken's to roost..
          Nulla semper amicus, servivit mihi, in iniuriam mihi neminem quem non persolvi

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              Originally posted by Sulla View Post
              Fixed it for you..

              Honestly what next?

              Leadership contest.. she'll scrape through...

              2nd referendum.. on the back of a World Cup win..


              it's coming home... the chicken's to roost..
              She stacks the front bench with remainers, gets her soft Brexit and then sells it to a public that don't care either way due to the recent return home of football.
              "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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                Gonna be a busy night for the sorting hat in House Ravenclaw
                I am the million man.

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                  Originally posted by Jenta View Post
                  She stacks the front bench with remainers, gets her soft Brexit and then sells it to a public that don't care either way due to the recent return home of football.
                  Educate me, if she has stacked the cabinet with Remainders and the Leavists have now shat their respective beds, is she not in a stonger position?

                  Has it dawned on the Tories that leaving has proven more painful than worth achieving, or is this the opening moves of an inner coup?
                  I am the million man.

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                    Originally posted by Jenta View Post
                    She stacks the front bench with remainers, gets her soft Brexit and then sells it to a public that don't care either way due to the recent return home of football.
                    Well she put Rabb in charge of Brexit, so I'm not sure on that.

                    I reckon Javid will be the next PM within a short period of time.
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                      they would probably be better off with Rab C at this stage!
                      He's a guy who gets up at six o'clock in the morning regardless of what time it is.

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                        The House of Commons was a circus.

                        Ireland will be the collateral damage when the tories use the GFA to blackmail
                        The EU.

                        Enjoying watching the DUP squirm though.

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                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4yeqSgNxiE

                          Boris leaving the house earlier today

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                            At least some good has come from Brexit, Jeremy Hunt is gone from Health to Foreign Secretary. A temporary reprieve for the NHS for the moment.
                            The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves

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                              I see BJ also had a photographer to come and take snaps of him signing his resignation. The man is utterly shameless.
                              He's a guy who gets up at six o'clock in the morning regardless of what time it is.

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                                Originally posted by fitzy73 View Post
                                Back to your question again - last night showed she believes she has a majority.

                                If a few of them don't stand up to her then it's the end of the Tory party as we know it. Gove and Davis (maybe even Boris) will be out on their arse at the next GE.

                                However I think there is a lot more to come from last night's meeting. They tend to grandstand for the Sunday morning politics shows.

                                Paradoxically, Brexit revealed and still reveals the same lines of divide that those that appeared shortly on the Continent: For or against EU, for or against free movements for citizens, for or against immigration, federalism or every country for themselves.
                                This divides changed deeply the political landscapes in France, in Spain, in Italy and even in Germany where Mémère staggers and the Union CDU/CSU too (And look why this happens... For internal Bavarian reasons concerning immigration and the threat AfD represents for CSU, Söder and Seehoffer are ready to let the system implode... There are common pints with Cameron's silliness)
                                In England, since Cameron's whims and political intern tactics drove to the point we now know (but are we sure we are at the end of the course when we see how May "rules" the problems she has to face too?..), couldn't a new party or simply a party like Lib Dems reap the benefits attracting europeists from both Tories and Labour camps as Macron did in France siphonning off the Socialist Party and nearly destroying the Repubicains? The line between Social-Democracy and Social Liberalism is thin as we saw with Hollande/Macron or as the internal debats in the german SPD show.
                                "To be energetic and self-sufficing is to be happy; but while one desire remains in the heart happiness may not come there. For to desire is to be incomplete: it is the badge of dependence, the signal of unhappiness, and to be freed from that is to be freed from every fetter that can possibly be forged." (James Stephens, Deirdre)

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