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    New years Eve in Cologne - Protest After NYE Mass Sex Assault On 90 Women

    http://news.sky.com/story/1617381/pr...lt-on-90-women

    Mayor of Cologne urges code of conduct for young women to prevent future assaults

    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/mayor-of-cologne-urges-code-of-conduct-for-young-women-to-prevent-future-assaults-34340393.html

    #2
    A fine city and I have friends there who aware of the increasing pick pocket situation are fairly shocked at what occurred.

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      #3
      Originally posted by The Last Stand View Post
      A fine city and I have friends there who aware of the increasing pick pocket situation are fairly shocked at what occurred.
      The carnival season coming up in Cologne hopefully will be peaceful but i doubt it after what happened NYE, I do business with a lot of different companies in Germany and from speaking to various people its not confined to the big cities, one middle sized town i visit a lot i have never seen a security person in a shop / supermarket but the government settled mostly young single men in an old army housing estate about 1 km from the town and on my last trip before the Christmas all shops had security because they have been robbed blind by gangs of these young men and the police are powerless , if they arrest them they cry the racist card and most are just dropped back to where they live. All these incidents are not been reported in the media but this town is a big tourist spot in the summer and the main street is car free and all the cafes etc have tables out front and is a big money spinner for a lot of the business and they are worried what will happen.

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        #4
        Originally posted by PARISHMAN1970 View Post
        The carnival season coming up in Cologne hopefully will be peaceful but i doubt it after what happened NYE, I do business with a lot of different companies in Germany and from speaking to various people its not confined to the big cities, one middle sized town i visit a lot i have never seen a security person in a shop / supermarket but the government settled mostly young single men in an old army housing estate about 1 km from the town and on my last trip before the Christmas all shops had security because they have been robbed blind by gangs of these young men and the police are powerless , if they arrest them they cry the racist card and most are just dropped back to where they live. All these incidents are not been reported in the media but this town is a big tourist spot in the summer and the main street is car free and all the cafes etc have tables out front and is a big money spinner for a lot of the business and they are worried what will happen.
        Yep my friend is quite worried about the carnival season and specifically his wife and daughter. I reckon this can be addressed by better policing and taking a harder line on deporting the criminal element.

        I was in Koln three weeks before Christmas and generally felt safe certainly compared to Brussels and Dublin. A recent experience in the latter was on the luas where some young hoodlums were walking around the carriage with Stanley knives.

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          #5
          Originally posted by The Last Stand View Post

          A recent experience in the latter was on the luas where some young hoodlums were walking around the carriage with Stanley knives.
          On the Luas into town from Heuston Station? Almost definitely economic migrants from Limerick City.
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            #6
            How did you know it was me?
            If your religion is worth killing for, please start with yourself.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Old Dog View Post
              On the Luas into town from Heuston Station? Almost definitely economic migrants from Limerick City.
              Don't think so. Where are the Jennings from?

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                #8
                Originally posted by The Last Stand View Post
                Don't think so. Where are the Jennings from?
                Here?


                Back to the OP and the plot is thickening.

                Interesting to note that in the PC world of today, the media is scared to report what's going on.

                "The events have since come to dominate German media, but following a barrage of complaints on social media that the New Year’s Eve events were deliberately under-reported amid fears they would encourage anti-immigrant sentiment, Germany’s public broadcaster, ZDF, was forced to apologise for its decision not to report on the attacks until Tuesday, four days after they had occurred."

                http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne
                Last edited by Old Dog; 6th-January-2016, 22:28.
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                  #9
                  This is simple criminality. Gangs of teenagers running through tube trains and carnival streets stealing and harassing is nothing new, I remember it from my time in London. Race has nothing to do with it and shame on people for jumping straight in to claim arabs or black people are somehow immune from the law they are not.

                  There's no need to resurrect the medieval nightmare of the dark arab coming to our countries and mauling and raping our white women
                  Munster – Champions of Europe 2006, 2008, 2019.

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                    #10
                    From my undersanding of events in Köln on New Year's Eve, this was not simple harassment and theft. All of the reports I read indicated that these were not just teenagers and that the sexual assaults were organised amoungst a gang of about 1,000 males.

                    RTÉ apparantly hasn't heard about it yet.
                    If your religion is worth killing for, please start with yourself.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by rathbaner View Post
                      This is simple criminality. Gangs of teenagers running through tube trains and carnival streets stealing and harassing is nothing new, I remember it from my time in London. Race has nothing to do with it and shame on people for jumping straight in to claim arabs or black people are somehow immune from the law they are not.

                      There's no need to resurrect the medieval nightmare of the dark arab coming to our countries and mauling and raping our white women
                      hmm race has NOTHING to do with it you say? What a load of b*llocks.

                      "About 90 women have reported being robbed, threatened or sexually molested at New Year celebrations outside Cologne's cathedral by young, mostly drunk, men, police said on Tuesday, in events they have described as 'a new dimension in crime'.

                      Cologne police chief Wolfgang Albers told a news conference officers described the men as looking as if they were from "the Arab or North African region" and mostly between 18 and 35 years old."

                      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-assaults-idUSKBN0UJ1IP20160105

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Major TNT View Post
                        hmm race has NOTHING to do with it you say? What a load of b*llocks.

                        "About 90 women have reported being robbed, threatened or sexually molested at New Year celebrations outside Cologne's cathedral by young, mostly drunk, men, police said on Tuesday, in events they have described as 'a new dimension in crime'.

                        Cologne police chief Wolfgang Albers told a news conference officers described the men as looking as if they were from "the Arab or North African region" and mostly between 18 and 35 years old."

                        http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-assaults-idUSKBN0UJ1IP20160105

                        As Rathbaner said, race has nothing to do with it. The issue is with the influx of a large number of young, single men with no families around them, no level of integration or socialisation, a fair bit of trauma in their backgrounds etc etc.

                        Yes, the problem is with one category of people living in that community, but it's not a new or unprecedented problem historically, and it's not peculiar to a particular race. It's about the issues.

                        The European Commission reckon that 1 in 3 European Women have been victims of sexual abuse.

                        These men should be subjected to the full force of the law, and the broader issues of integration dealt with asap.
                        "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

                        "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


                        "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Old Dog View Post
                          Here?


                          Back to the OP and the plot is thickening.

                          Interesting to note that in the PC world of today, the media is scared to report what's going on.

                          "The events have since come to dominate German media, but following a barrage of complaints on social media that the New Year’s Eve events were deliberately under-reported amid fears they would encourage anti-immigrant sentiment, Germany’s public broadcaster, ZDF, was forced to apologise for its decision not to report on the attacks until Tuesday, four days after they had occurred."

                          http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

                          Am I right in thinking that you're quoting The Guardian's coverage of the incidents has evidence that the liberal, PC media isn't discussing them?

                          The lack of national coverage in Germany is interesting though. A deliberate media silence, or a failure to get on the story at a time when a lot of journos are on a go slow? I don't know enough about the German media, but in the UK or Ireland a news story doesn't have to be epoch making to make the front page at that time of year. You'd have thought this would register in slow news season.
                          "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

                          "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


                          "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Balla Boy View Post
                            Am I right in thinking that you're quoting The Guardian's coverage of the incidents has evidence that the liberal, PC media isn't discussing them?

                            The lack of national coverage in Germany is interesting though. A deliberate media silence, or a failure to get on the story at a time when a lot of journos are on a go slow? I don't know enough about the German media, but in the UK or Ireland a news story doesn't have to be epoch making to make the front page at that time of year. You'd have thought this would register in slow news season.
                            I think its a more lets not report anything in case we upset the visitors policy as incidents like this are been reported more on social media sites then in the national media but it is now getting the deserved headlines in the national media both in Germany and all over the world and other incidents from other cities are coming in, this is becoming another PR disaster for Merkel and her open door policy.
                            At the end of the day women and girls were SEXUALLY assaulted and whoever was involved should be hunted down and punished.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Balla Boy View Post
                              Am I right in thinking that you're quoting The Guardian's coverage of the incidents has evidence that the liberal, PC media isn't discussing them?

                              The lack of national coverage in Germany is interesting though. A deliberate media silence, or a failure to get on the story at a time when a lot of journos are on a go slow? I don't know enough about the German media, but in the UK or Ireland a news story doesn't have to be epoch making to make the front page at that time of year. You'd have thought this would register in slow news season.
                              There has absolutely not been a media silence on this in Germany. I understand that this was all over the news on 3rd January so perhaps they may have been slow on the uptake but perhaps for valid reasons.

                              Firstly, there was a lot of misleading information that the criminals involved were newly arrived refugees. This is not the case. Secondly, there is huge political and social sensitivity around that particular issue given that Germany has been very open to accepting refugees. Thirdly, inaccurate reporting could lead to both a bounce in support for the far-right and calls for mass deportations (by train!) which historically could be deemed difficult for Germany. Fourthly, the big new year story was in Munich where there was a terrorist threat.

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