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    VW caught manipulating its diesel car emissions tests

    This is insane.....

    Senior directors of German carmaker Volkswagen are due to meet to discuss what action to take after the company was caught manipulating its diesel car emissions tests.

    VW faces multiple probes in the US which could result in huge financial damage.

    The company, the world's biggest carmaker, has admitted it deceived US regulators in exhaust emissions tests.
    There is speculation over the future of VW chief executive Martin Winterkorn.

    Reports in Germany suggest Mr Winterkorn has lost the support of key investors, following the revelation that the firm installed a device to circumvent emission test requirements for diesel cars in the US.

    Volkswagen has said 11 million vehicles worldwide are involved and it is setting aside €6.5bn (£4.7bn) to cover costs of the scandal.
    He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.


    What is Volkswagen accused of?

    It's been dubbed the "diesel dupe". The German car giant has admitted cheating emissions tests in the US. According to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), some cars being sold in America had devices in diesel engines that could detect when they were being tested, changing the performance accordingly to improve results.

    VW has had a major push to sell diesel cars in the US, backed by a huge marketing campaign trumpeting its cars' low emissions. The EPA's findings cover 482,000 cars in the US only, including the VW-manufactured Audi A3, and the VW brands Jetta, Beetle, Golf and Passat. But VW has admitted that about 11 million cars worldwide are fitted with the so-called "defeat device".

    The device sounds like a sophisticated piece of kit

    Full details of how it worked are sketchy, although the EPA has said that the engines had computer software that could sense test scenarios by monitoring speed, engine operation, air pressure and even the position of the steering wheel.

    When the cars were operating under controlled laboratory conditions - which typically involved putting them on a stationary test rig - the device appears to have put the vehicle into a sort of safety mode in which the engine ran below normal power and performance. Once on the road, the engines switched from this test mode.

    The result? The engines emitted nitrogen oxide pollutants up to 40 times above what is allowed in the US.
    He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.


      What has been VW's response?

      The case against VW appears cast-iron. "We've totally screwed up," said VW America boss Michael Horn, while group chief executive Martin Winterkorn said his company had "broken the trust of our customers and the public". An internal inquiry has been launched.

      With VW recalling almost 500,000 cars in the US alone, it has set aside €6.5bn (£4.7bn) to cover costs. But that's unlikely to be the end of the financial impact. The EPA has the power to fine a company up to $37,500 for each vehicle that breaches standards - a maximum fine of about $18bn.

      Legal action from consumers and shareholders may follow, and there is speculation that the US Justice Department will launch a criminal probe.

      Are VW's problems confined to the US?

      Certainly not. Other countries, including Italy, France and South Korea, are opening investigations. Throughout the world, politicians, regulators and environmental groups are questioning the legitimacy of VW's emissions testing. France's finance minister Michel Sapin said a "Europe-wide" probe was needed in order to "reassure" the public.

      At this time, only cars in the US named by the EPA are being recalled, so owners elsewhere need take no action. However, with about 11 million VW diesel cars potentially affected, further costly recalls and refits are possible. Half of the company's sales in Europe - VW's biggest market - are for diesel cars. No wonder the carmaker's shares plunged around 30% in the first couple of days after the scandal broke - with other carmakers also seeing big falls in their stock prices.

      Surely, VW heads will roll?

      It's still unclear who knew what and when. In 2014, in the US, regulators raised concerns about VW emissions levels, but these were dismissed by the company as "technical issues" and "unexpected" real-world conditions. If executives and managers wilfully misled officials, it's difficult to see them surviving.

      Inevitably, attention will focus on Mr Winterkorn, who recently saw off a bitter power struggle with former VW's chairman Ferdinand Piech. The engine rigging scandal could re-open old wounds. What's more, Mr Winterkorn ran the core Volkswagen brands between 2007 and 2015. "Winterkorn either knew of proceedings in the US or it was not reported to him," car analyst at Evercore ISI Arndt Ellinghorst said.

      It's all another blow for the diesel market

      Certainly is. Over the last decade and more, carmakers have poured a fortune into the production of diesel vehicles - with the support of many governments - believing that they are better for the environment. Latest scientific evidence suggests that's not the case, and there are even moves to limit diesel cars in some cities.

      Diesel sales were already slowing, so the VW scandal comes at a bad time. "The revelations are likely to lead to a sharp fall in demand for diesel engine cars," said Richard Gane, automotive expert at consultants Vendigital.

      "In the US, the diesel car market currently represents around 1% of all new car sales and this is unlikely to increase in the short to medium term.

      "However, in Europe the impact could be much more significant, leading to a large tranche of the market switching to petrol engine cars virtually overnight."
      He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.


        They should be hung out for this. They gained a serious competitive advantage with their bogus claims. What other deceptions have they been doing. Also the Germans have been the most reluctant in respect of tougher targets for car emissions - CO2 and the air pollutants such as NOx.


          Can´t see Germany letting VW go bust over this....
          He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.


            Saw an article earlier today with some iclaims putting the scale of this into perspective. I've pulled out a few paragraphs below.

            Volkswagen’s rigging of emissions tests for 11m cars means they may be responsible for nearly 1m tonnes of air pollution every year, roughly the same as the UK’s combined emissions for all power stations, vehicles, industry and agriculture, a Guardian analysis suggests.

            The company admitted the device may have been fitted to 11m of its vehicles worldwide. If that proves correct, VW’s defective vehicles could be responsible for between 237,161 and 948,691 tonnes of NOx emissions each year, 10 to 40 times the pollution standard for new models in the US. Western Europe’s biggest power station, Drax in the UK, emits 39,000 tonnes of NOx each year.

            In the US, just 3% of passenger cars are diesel compared with almost half in the EU. Prof Martin Williams of King’s College London said the US’s low percentage of diesel cars meant higher diesel emissions in some cars would have a “limited effect” on air quality there. “[In the US it would be] nowhere near the effect it would have in this country and in the rest of Europe for that matter,” he said. In the UK, Williams added, emissions from diesel cars cause roughly 5,800 premature deaths each year. “If you were to make the cars emit at the legal limit you could reduce those deaths by at least a factor of two and maybe more. Maybe a factor of five.”

            Last week, a report from NGO Transport & Environment found that Europe’s testing regime was allowing nine out of every 10 new diesel vehicles to breach EU limits. Testing regimes in the EU are known to fail to pick up “real world” emissions because cars are not driven in the same way in the laboratory as on the road. Some studies suggest the discrepancy may be up to seven times the legal limit.
            Tis but a scratch.


              "Shakes fist in the general direction of Diesel engines...."
              He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.


                Read up on benzene and particulates from petrol engines before you do ... :(
                Roll on the day of microgeneration and battery-powered vehicles which can be recharged overnight and fast charging in less than half an hour.
                Tis but a scratch.


                  Originally posted by i_like_cake View Post
                  Can´t see Germany letting VW go bust over this....
                  They would have to break EU rules to prevent it.... You're right can't see Germany letting VW bust over this.


                    Does anyone think it is only VW?


                      Not for a second.
                      Tis but a scratch.


                        VW CEO has resigned.
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