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    #61
    Originally posted by Old Dog View Post
    Presumably because the documentation is required either for the independent enquiry that the motormouths on the Opposition benches were so keen to have establshed; or for DOB's court case against the Oireachtas.

    If you had even a quarter of a watt of brainpower, then you should have been able to work that one out for yourself.
    hmmm, how interesting. First you present your presumption as fact. You must somehow be forgetting this nugget from Bridget mccole's tormentor Michael Noonan ;

    "Earlier Minister for Finance Michael Noonan told the Dáil there was no evidence of any wrongdoing in relation to IBRC sales. But he said he recognised “that there are genuine public concerns and these concerns have grown significantly in recent weeks”.

    Mr Noonan, opening the two-day debate on the commission of investigation into the controversial sale of Siteserv and other transactions by IBRC, confirmed €4 million had been set aside for the inquiry, and this could increase if the commission was extended he said."

    surely if denis O'Brien did nothing wrong then he shouldn't be in any way fearful of the inquiry eh?!

    Then again if he wasn't so worried he wouldn't be trying to sue the Oireachtas, would he?

    Last edited by Major TNT; 28-December-2015, 06:35.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Major TNT View Post

      hmmm, how interesting. First you present your presumption as fact. You must somehow be forgetting this nugget from Bridget mccole's tormentor Michael Noonan ;

      "Earlier Minister for Finance Michael Noonan told the Dáil there was no evidence of any wrongdoing in relation to IBRC sales. But he said he recognised “that there are genuine public concerns and these concerns have grown significantly in recent weeks”.

      Mr Noonan, opening the two-day debate on the commission of investigation into the controversial sale of Siteserv and other transactions by IBRC, confirmed €4 million had been set aside for the inquiry, and this could increase if the commission was extended he said."

      surely if denis O'Brien did nothing wrong then he shouldn't be in any way fearful of the inquiry eh?!

      Then again if he wasn't so worried he wouldn't be trying to sue the Oireachtas, would he?

      The McCole reference is irrelevant and serves merely to show your agenda. Furthemore, if you genuinely gave a tuppenny damn about the poor woman, then you'd have had the basic decency to capitalise her surname.


      I suspect that your ¼ horsepower brain may have misunderstood the meaning of Minister Noonan's comment that "he recognised “that there are genuine public concerns and these concerns have grown significantly in recent weeks."

      Noonan isn't saying that there's something wrong - he's simply acknowledging that the hysteria fanned up by some irresponsible opposition TDs, aided and abetted by some tabloid minds in the media has brought about the situation where Joe and Jane Sixpack need further reassurance that there isn't a problem. To me, it's a shocking waste of €4m of taxpayer's funds - but the "responsible" Opposition TDs don't really care how much this exercise in futility is going to cost the State, just as long as they can get some free publicity.

      Both Denis O'Brien and that plump woman from Rehab are taking cases against the Oireachtas because they maintain that certain opposition TDs have abused their Dáil privileges - for cheap headlines - and have thereby breached their Constitutional Rights.

      I find it wholly unsurprising that a Sinn Féin lover like you would have a problem with people seeking to defend their constitutional right to a good name. Especially given the fact that Pearse Motormouth is one of the Deputies accused of having abused his Dail privilege.

      You see, Corporal dynamite, for many people, having a good name matters - although SF's President for Life certainly isn't one of them.
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        #63
        Originally posted by Old Dog View Post
        The McCole reference is irrelevant and serves merely to show your agenda. Furthemore, if you genuinely gave a tuppenny damn about the poor woman, then you'd have had the basic decency to capitalise her surname.


        I suspect that your ¼ horsepower brain may have misunderstood the meaning of Minister Noonan's comment that "he recognised “that there are genuine public concerns and these concerns have grown significantly in recent weeks."

        Noonan isn't saying that there's something wrong - he's simply acknowledging that the hysteria fanned up by some irresponsible opposition TDs, aided and abetted by some tabloid minds in the media has brought about the situation where Joe and Jane Sixpack need further reassurance that there isn't a problem. To me, it's a shocking waste of €4m of taxpayer's funds - but the "responsible" Opposition TDs don't really care how much this exercise in futility is going to cost the State, just as long as they can get some free publicity.

        Both Denis O'Brien and that plump woman from Rehab are taking cases against the Oireachtas because they maintain that certain opposition TDs have abused their Dáil privileges - for cheap headlines - and have thereby breached their Constitutional Rights.

        I find it wholly unsurprising that a Sinn Féin lover like you would have a problem with people seeking to defend their constitutional right to a good name. Especially given the fact that Pearse Motormouth is one of the Deputies accused of having abused his Dail privilege.

        You see, Corporal dynamite, for many people, having a good name matters - although SF's President for Life certainly isn't one of them.
        Lol, sinn fein lover!! You really really are clueless!!

        The only person here showing that they have an agenda is you.
        You'd prefer if there was no inquiry, that the whole thing just gets brushed under the carpet and that denis o'brien and the siteserv debacle isnt investigated at all. Really pathetic from you, as per usual.

        How ironic that you pretend to be worried about the cost of the inquiry, but yet have no problem whatsoever with the massive debt write off's that denis o'brien benefited from.
        Denis, like you and your moronic ramblings, wants to have it both ways - he didnt want to pay taxes here on the profits from the esat sell off but yet wants "Constitutional Rights".

        And as for denis o'brien and angela kerins having a "good name", that is completely laughable!
        If you actually believe that, it is your lack of brain power that is evidently the issue.

        Or perhaps you just want the existing mob and their buddies to continue their unfettered access to the trough.
        Either way it doesnt look good for you I'm afraid old dog.

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          #64
          This will get interesting.

          Meanwhile Michael Noonan has not been well - http://www.irishtimes.com/news/polit...dure-1.2478855

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            #65
            Originally posted by The Last Stand View Post
            This will get interesting.

            Meanwhile Michael Noonan has not been well - http://www.irishtimes.com/news/polit...dure-1.2478855
            Think Noonan needs a bit of work on his eyesight while he's in too;

            "but from my perspective the country is more or less sorted out again now."

            according to Noonan there's no issue with hospitals, the HSE, housing, homelessness, multiple inquiry's etc etc.....

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              #66
              Fine Gael

              Originally posted by Major TNT View Post
              Think Noonan needs a bit of work on his eyesight while he's in too;

              "but from my perspective the country is more or less sorted out again now."

              according to Noonan there's no issue with hospitals, the HSE, housing, homelessness, multiple inquiry's etc etc.....
              All that is the responsibility of the minister for public expenditure. And it is coming up to an election.

              Tax receipts are increasing, employment is increasing, aggressive tax planning by multi nationals has been addressed, our debt to GDP rate is decreasing, the cost of servicing the national debt is decreasing and there is confidence in him from the business community and our international partners. From where we were when he took over things are very different now.

              What else do you want? What would you do differently? Should taxes increase? Decrease? If yes, which taxes? Should there be a greater shift from direct to indirect taxes? Should he have decided to leave taxes as they were and instead paid any gains off against the debt and not try to stimulate the domestic economy?

              Of course, some argue that we need to make the most progressive income tax system in the world even more progressive and introduce a wealth tax despite the fact that the experts say it will damage the economy as a whole particularly employment.
              Last edited by The Last Stand; 30-December-2015, 09:35.

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                #67
                I don't know why you bother TLS, pop the clown onto ignore, job sorted
                My computer thinks I'm gay
                What's the difference anyway
                When all the people do all day
                Is stare into a phone

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                  #68
                  That is true (and I did in the past). Good advice.

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                    #69
                    QUOTE=Major TNT:

                    You'd prefer if there was no inquiry, that the whole thing just gets brushed under the carpet and that denis o'brien and the siteserv debacle isnt investigated at all. Really pathetic from you, as per usual.

                    The siteserve debacle has already been investigated. The outcome wasn't what some people liked so they stamped their feet and screamed and screamed until they got another inquiry. When this one produces the same outcome - as it will - I have no doubt that you'll scream even louder - because that's all that people like you are capable of doing when the facts don't suit your agenda.

                    How ironic that you pretend to be worried about the cost of the inquiry, but yet have no problem whatsoever with the massive debt write off's that denis o'brien benefited from.

                    Utter tripe. If I ever decide to employ a cretin to tell me what I do or don't have a problem with, you can rest assured that I'll invite you to tender for the vacancy.

                    I have already pointed out to you that if DOB hadn't purchased the distressed companies then the next highest bidder would have purchased them - at an even bigger discount - thereby hitting the exchequer harder. It comes as no surprise to me that your brain seems incapable of grasping such simple logic.

                    Denis, like you and your moronic ramblings, wants to have it both ways - he didnt want to pay taxes here on the profits from the esat sell off but yet wants "Constitutional Rights".

                    The Courts found in DOB's favour regarding his tax liability (to my annoyance and surprise) and it is quite possible that they'll also find in his favour regarding his right to fair treatment from elected members of the Oireachtas (which would please me). If so, then I suspect that you'll indulge in yet more screaming and foot stamping before describing the verdict as "moronic rambling"

                    Or perhaps you just want the existing mob and their buddies to continue their unfettered access to the trough.

                    It is a matter of genuine regret to me that in the coming election there would appear to be no feasible alternative to re-electing an uninspring government, led by a deeply unimpressive Taoiseach. I could spoil my vote, but that would be both pointless and cowardly. I could vote for FF, but that would be insane. And hell will freeze over before I vote for the candidate of a party that is led by a disloyal subject of Queen Elizabeth II.

                    And now Lance-corporal Popgun, I'm exiling you to my 'ignore' septic tank. And I'm taking Boo-boo out, because a nice lady like her cannot be expected to rub shoulders with the likes of you.
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Old Dog View Post
                      It is a matter of genuine regret to me that in the coming election there would appear to be no feasible alternative to re-electing an uninspring government, led by a deeply unimpressive Taoiseach. I could spoil my vote, but that would be both pointless and cowardly. I could vote for FF, but that would be insane. And hell will freeze over before I vote for the candidate of a party that is led by a disloyal subject of Queen Elizabeth II.
                      One is concerned you are overlooking the Socialist Party comrade. They have all the answers on how we can get somebody else to pay for everything. Apparently they have a list of companies as long as the road from the capital of the republic to the capital of the people's republic just waiting to start up operations once the corporation tax is a more attractive 35%.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Benny View Post
                        One is concerned you are overlooking the Socialist Party comrade. They have all the answers on how we can get somebody else to pay for everything. Apparently they have a list of companies as long as the road from the capital of the republic to the capital of the people's republic just waiting to start up operations once the corporation tax is a more attractive 35%.
                        Great people altogether! Fertile imaginations and the vision of Ray Charles. However, I doubt that any flavour of the SP/AAA/PbP will run a candidate in Cork South West.

                        Although PBP did have a candidate in the 2014 Local Elections (a very interesting candidate). He came in 17th of the 19 candidates; just ahead of the Labour candidate!
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by The Last Stand View Post
                          All that is the responsibility of the minister for public expenditure. And it is coming up to an election.

                          aggressive tax planning by multi nationals has been addressed
                          Oh really? So do tell us, how has the "aggressive tax planning by multi nationals been addressed"?

                          You have data to show that ebay, paypal, google, facebook etc etc are going to pay an INCREASED amount of tax this year?
                          Do you? Please do share that with us.

                          Or are you just waffling as per usual?

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by sewa View Post
                            I don't know why you bother TLS, pop the clown onto ignore, job sorted
                            Originally posted by The Last Stand View Post
                            That is true (and I did in the past). Good advice.
                            Ah the good old ignore button, the last refuge of the absolute coward.

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                              #74
                              Fine Gael

                              Originally posted by Major TNT View Post
                              Oh really? So do tell us, how has the "aggressive tax planning by multi nationals been addressed"?

                              You have data to show that ebay, paypal, google, facebook etc etc are going to pay an INCREASED amount of tax this year?
                              Do you? Please do share that with us.

                              Or are you just waffling as per usual?
                              You were asked questions and you chose to ignore them.

                              As for the question you asked me, think you can look at the CT tax receipts this year not to mention the Finance Acts for the previous three years.
                              Last edited by The Last Stand; 2-January-2016, 07:08.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by The Last Stand View Post
                                You were asked questions and you chose to ignore them.

                                As for the question you asked me, think you can look at the CT tax receipts this year not to mention the Finance Acts for the previous three years.
                                Well actually I did, you couldn't post any specifics which is proof you are talking nonsense.

                                Comparing 2009 to 2014 corporation tax take increased by only 0.714bn.
                                Whereas in the same period other taxes increased by a staggering amount, 8.24 billion.

                                So don't try to tell us that "aggressive tax planning by multi nationals been addressed".

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