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    #76
    Originally posted by Pythagoras View Post
    I can still remember seeing this being done on calves (without anaesthetic, needless to say).
    The pain must have been terrible because they didn't even bawl they just sort of tensed up and started to go down slowly on their hind legs as the nutcracker was closed.
    For the rest of the day they were like zombies.
    An unimaginably cruel thing to do.
    In a lot of places there was the practice of creating eunuchs to protect the king's wife/harem from other males.
    The way it was done varied from culture to culture.
    China was extreme, they amputated the the testicles and the penis.
    What did you have in mind?
    It would depend on the severity of the crime.
    Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth. (Marcus Aurelius, 121-189 AD)

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      #77
      This seems like the most appropriate thread for posting this. Despite how so much has been emerging even in recent years, the sheer scale of it is staggering, just staggering.

      Police expect 30,000 new child abuse reports from Goddard inquiry

      Exclusive: Extent of child sexual abuse in England and Wales begins to become clear as inquiry passes on 100 cases a month


      The scale of child sexual abuse in England and Wales is being exposed by evidence from thousands of victims, with cases being passed to police at a rate of 100 a month by the public inquiry set up following the Jimmy Savile scandal.
      Simon Bailey, Norfolk’s chief constable and head of the national coordinating unit Operation Hydrant, said his team was expecting to be given 30,000 reports of new child sexual offences by the Goddard inquiry, and predicted the rate of referrals of allegations of abuse would increase.

      The chief constable said that given the trajectory of the number of reports, police would be investigating about 200,000 cases of child sexual abuse by 2020, giving an insight into the extent of child sexual abuse in Britain over many decades.
      Bailey added: “It is fair to say I am surprised by the extent of abuse being exposed, it is shocking. In trying to get a message across to the public about the scale of this, it is important to remember that behind each of these figures there is a victim.
      “We are seeing a significant rise in the number of referrals each month from the Goddard inquiry, and these allegations relate to abuse in a range of institutions from the church, to schools, the scouts and hospitals.”
      Justice Lowell Goddard is running 13 investigations into institutional abuse, which include inquiries concerning Westminster, the Catholic Church, Church of England, and Lambeth borough, and concerning grooming and sexual exploitation in Rochdale, Devon, Cornwall, Oxford and Rotherham, and at the Medomsley detention centre in Durham.
      Another 12 investigations will be pursued during the inquiry. Most of these 25 investigations will lead to public hearings.
      Gabrielle Shaw, chief executive officer for the National Association for People Abused in Childhood, said: “We have lifted the lid on a hidden problem, now survivors are coming forward in large numbers. These people were failed by institutions in childhood. They deserve to be heard now. Why were signs of child abuse ignored, unrecognised or unreported? The insight survivors have is vital in shaping how our institutions protect children in future.”
      On Thursday, the Goddard inquiry opened new offices in Manchester as part of its nationwide “truth project”, which invites victims of abuse to give detailed testimony of their experiences. In many cases these experiences have stayed unspoken about for decades.
      Two thousand victims have already contacted the inquiry to give details about experiences of child sexual abuse, and about 600 have already indicated that they would give their full testimony to the truth project.
      In Australia where a royal commission into child abuse is being held, the numbers of people who have come forward has surpassed predictions. Bailey said that the same would be true of the Goddard hearings.
      Referrals to Bailey’s team on Operation Hydrant stem from allegations made by victims contacting the inquiry and through the investigations being carried out by the inquiry team.
      “These referrals are allegations which are new to the police,” said Bailey. “Where there are criminal investigations they will be passed to the relevant police force. What we are seeing is that the face of crime has fundamentally changed and it means we have had to move our resources to crimes against the vulnerable [and concerning] child abuse, adult abuse and rape.”
      The huge increase in reports of child abuse to the police – a rise of 80% between 2012 and 2015 – was continuing, Bailey added. Police forces across England and Wales investigated 70,000 cases of child sexual abuse last year and 25% of the investigations were into non-recent abuse.
      The chief constable said that the rise in investigations was due not just to increased reporting but to more children being abused, with the internet acting as a facilitator for paedophiles to contact children. He has commissioned research in an attempt to establish whether this is correct.
      The enormous draw on police resources of these investigations comes as a severe spending squeeze on police budgets continues.
      Last week Alison Saunders, the director of public prosecutions, issued new guidance to remind police that her lawyers would not make charging decisions in relation to dead perpetrators, implying that police were not aware of the ruling that the dead could not be charged with criminal offences.
      Bailey defended the police from criticism. “It is vital that the police investigate allegations of child sexual abuse thoroughly and proportionately, whether the alleged crimes took place last week or many years ago,” he said. “Victims who report abuse by someone who is now dead have the same expectation that their allegations will be taken seriously and that they will have recourse to justice. Police also need to determine whether the alleged offender may have worked with others who are still alive and could pose a risk today.”
      He added that age was no bar to people committing child abuse, citing examples of cases in which men in their 90s were under investigation for abuse.
      This week, Theresa May, the home secretary, spoke out against those who said police should only concentrate on current crimes. “Perpetrators must never be allowed to think that their horrific acts will go overlooked or go unpunished ... Victims and survivors … deserve to be heard now, just as they should have been years ago, and they deserve justice, just as they did then,” she said.
      Tis but a scratch.

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        #78
        That's horrible but at least they are investigating the alleged claims.
        Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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          #79
          Currently there are about 125,000 coppers in England and Wales. Expecting them to investigate an estimated 200,000 allegations of abuse, many decades old, while, at the same time still trying to carry out the full range of their normal policing duties, is a heck of a tall ask.

          I reckon that they'll need to bring in some form of triage in order to sort the caseload into manageable numbers.
          New infraction avoidance policy: a post may be described as imbecilic, but its author should never be described as an imbecile.

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