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  • Balla Boy
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    Originally posted by Major TNT View Post
    You know if the above did happen, it'd be portrayed in western media as an example of middle east savagery. Tut tut and all that.
    If they cut his head off. But a firing squad? Would anyone really be shocked?

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  • Benny
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    Originally posted by Drick View Post
    Nidal Hasan gets death penalty for Fort Hood rampage

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23871617
    "He will not now and he will never be a martyr," Col Mulligan said of Maj Hasan. "He is a criminal. He is a cold-blooded murderer."

    "He will never be a martyr because he has nothing to give," Col Mulligan added. "He will not be giving his life, we will be taking it."

    Sounds pretty cold blooded to say you will be taking somebody else's life. Apart from the number killed what is the difference between what Hasan did and what Mulligan wants to do?

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  • ick
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    Originally posted by sewa View Post
    He is more than likely getting the death penalty anyway, why wait?
    Nidal Hasan gets death penalty for Fort Hood rampage

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23871617

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  • Major TNT
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    Originally posted by Balla Boy View Post
    I'm not necessarily keen on the idea, but a better analogy would be that a, say, Iranian Christian soldier opens fire on colleagues on an Iranian army base, then declares that he wants to have his head cut off to emulate John the Baptist, and then they cut his head off.
    You know if the above did happen, it'd be portrayed in western media as an example of middle east savagery. Tut tut and all that.

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  • Balla Boy
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    Originally posted by Major TNT View Post
    Lets say that a US soldier in the middle east or israeli soldier who says they are not afraid to die gets captured, and their enemy chops their head off.
    Going by your logic you'd be cool with that??
    I'm not necessarily keen on the idea, but a better analogy would be that a, say, Iranian Christian soldier opens fire on colleagues on an Iranian army base, then declares that he wants to have his head cut off to emulate John the Baptist, and then they cut his head off.

    I'm not generally supportive of cutting people's heads off, but you'd have to agree that the individual had played a large part in their own demise?

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  • sewa
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    Originally posted by Major TNT View Post
    Lets say that a US soldier in the middle east or israeli soldier who says they are not afraid to die gets captured, and their enemy chops their head off.
    Going by your logic you'd be cool with that??
    He is more than likely getting the death penalty anyway, why wait?

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  • Major TNT
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    Originally posted by sewa View Post
    That Muslim Soldier wants the death penalty so he can be a martyr IIRC, see no reason why they shouldn't secretly execute and bury him, comply with his wishes
    Lets say that a US soldier in the middle east or israeli soldier who says they are not afraid to die gets captured, and their enemy chops their head off.
    Going by your logic you'd be cool with that??

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  • Balla Boy
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    Originally posted by Grandpasimpson View Post
    That story from China with the little 6 year old boy who was attacked by his aunt who later killed herself, my stomach is still reeling from it, the poor little fella pictured today holding his little teddy that he'll never see:(
    There's something very primal, and brutal, about the notion of someone putting someone's eyes out. And a six year old? I was horrified. One of those stories that would probably not hit me in the same way before I became a parent.

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  • Grandpasimpson
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    That story from China with the little 6 year old boy who was attacked by his aunt who later killed herself, my stomach is still reeling from it, the poor little fella pictured today holding his little teddy that he'll never see:(

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  • sewa
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    That Muslim Soldier wants the death penalty so he can be a martyr IIRC, see no reason why they shouldn't secretly execute and bury him, comply with his wishes

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  • The Spoofer
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    I was flicking through the news channels last night.Fox was hilarious. They had a lad on who had worked out that Castro saved the Fed Government $780k by hanging himself and had a list of who should be handed nooses including the Muslim Soldier who killed a number of colleagues on an army base.

    How do they get away with that?

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  • Boo-boo
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    Originally posted by sewa View Post
    15 May 2013
    Cleveland kidnap accused Castro to plead innocent - lawyers The US man accused of imprisoning three women for about a decade in his house in Ohio will plead not guilty to all charges, his lawyers say.
    Ariel Castro, aged 52, is charged with four counts of kidnapping and three counts of rape.
    The women were abducted at different times and held in Mr Castro's house in Cleveland. One of them escaped earlier this month and raised the alarm.
    "He's not a monster and he shouldn't be demonised," said lawyer Jaye Schlachet.
    Speaking to the AFP news agency, he added that details of Mr Castro's innocence "will be disclosed as the case progresses".
    Craig Weintraub, another defence lawyer, told WKYC-TV that his client "loves dearly'' the child he fathered with 27-year-old Amanda Berry - one of the three alleged kidnap victims.
    The other women freed from Mr Castro's house were Gina DeJesus, 23, and Michelle Knight, 32.
    Prosecutors in Ohio have said they also plan to seek aggravated murder charges that could carry the death penalty.
    The charges relate to alleged forced miscarriages suffered by one victim
    JoEllen Smith of the Ohio Department of Corrections released a statement in which she said Castro, 53, was found at 9.20pm local time.
    The statement said he had taken his own life.


    ****ing chicken! The women didn't go that route. Rot in hell.http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0904/472...ead-in-prison/

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  • Evil Omer
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    Originally posted by Balla Boy View Post
    I've certainly noticed what I would see as a rise in violent misogyny over the last few years.

    The "lad "culture of the nineties, which was epitomised by magazines like Nuts and Loaded, seems to have been succeeded by something entirely darker.

    Online especially, people seem comfortable joking about rape and domestic violence in a way that I don't remember being the case a few years ago. There's been a marked growth in violent, degrading pornography and the rest of our culture is becoming increasingly "pornified". Lots of what is now mainstream music remains very sexist. The rape case where the two American students were convicted was shocking.

    I'd say that, overall, it feels like we've gone backwards in the last ten years in terms of attitudes to women.
    I don't think it is as easy as just saying this is men against women level of issue. We've just gone backwards full stop. Attitudes by everyone to everyone are appalling. Read this about how some idiot knocked a cyclist flying into a hedge and drove off leaving them there and what they tweeted. It would be easy to say that's an extreme, a one off, but it isn't. That is the society we live in, our problems are way beyond trying to turn this into simple classifications. It is about people generally having limited respect for anyone else, no thought for their own actions and most of all limited if any concept of controlling their own behaviour. On a regular basis I see people texting or phoning while driving dangerously and people in big vehicles quite literally bullying others off the road. That's not the odd time, that has become the standard on the roads. That lack of caring for anyone else is a standard behaviour among "normal" people. People confuse not thinking with not meaning to do something and just don't think. We live in a society that no longer cares about self control and just tuts and walks away when it sees unacceptable behaviour. Just throwing your litter on the pavements, letting your dog foul anywhere and leaving it, screaming and swearing in the middle of the street are the norm not the extreme any more. When that level of behaviour is the norm then the extreme just ramps up several levels from what it used to be.

    And scum fear nothing and no one, why would they? When you take a situation like that and add in things like someone telling them white girls are there to be abused or goading them that they have to deal with someone who "dissed" them then this is where it gets to. We have entire generations growing up believing that stabbing, shooting, beating and abusing others are the normal way to behave. That goes way beyond misogyny and video games, that is a warped society where, oddly considering how much the word is used, the one thing people just don't get is respect for others.

    This site asks a very pertinent question about the dangerous driving incident, relevant to our problems generally. "Why is it socially-acceptable to admit to such a crime as though it wasn’t a crime?" Whilst in this one case, possibly, there's a backlash what real punishment will she face and how many get away with this kind of callous behaviour. As I say, she clearly believed basically smashing someone off the road because they were in her way and boasting about it is acceptable behaviour and sadly I think that mentality is not limited to just this one retard.
    Last edited by Evil Omer; 22nd-May-2013, 18:07.

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  • Buceph
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    Originally posted by mr chips View Post
    F**king hell, is that the sort of thing that passes for humour these days?? I despair for our society sometimes.

    One observation though is that the main pic appears to be an (atrocious) attempt at humour rather than an ad - looks like the ad itself is simply a clickable link in the bar down the right, along with a number of others.
    Yeah, the "joke" isn't doves ad. Dove just advertise on the page it's on. Facebook say the ad is based on the browsers interests but it still serves up ads for those companies when the "humour" of the page they're advertising on is about raping and assaulting people. Facebook were contacted repeatedly about this types of pages and refused to do anything about them. Instead people are contacting the companies who ads are on those pages.

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  • mr chips
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    F**king hell, is that the sort of thing that passes for humour these days?? I despair for our society sometimes.

    One observation though is that the main pic appears to be an (atrocious) attempt at humour rather than an ad - looks like the ad itself is simply a clickable link in the bar down the right, along with a number of others.

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