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    Oxford trafficking gang convicted...

    These bastards were convicted today only fifty yards from where I'm sitting. This is a very tough read:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ma...d-victims-hell


    What those kids went through...
    "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

    "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


    "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

    #2
    Really feel they should be left in a cage for the locals to deal with. Natural justice is for them to suffer the fear that their victims did.
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      #3
      Jesus Christ, that is horrific.
      I honestly didn't think those types of people existed, other than on the TV.
      On the internet, you can be anything you want. It always amazes me why so many people choose to be stupid.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Woggas View Post
        Jesus Christ, that is horrific.
        I honestly didn't think those types of people existed, other than on the TV.
        Hard to conceive that it's real, I agree. I don't understand how these people find each other, or the people who paid to abuse these girls.
        "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

        "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


        "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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          #5
          Mutilate them publicly.
          Tic-Toc. POC and DOC. Stop the clock.

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            #6
            That's horrific
            "There are a lot of points that we’ve left behind and this is with a young group. That probably tells you what they’re capable of and that they’re a very good side.

            Probably next year or the year after next they will take some stopping"

            Anthony Foley, May 2016. Axel RIP

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              #7
              Another case, this time from China. WARNING - I wasn't able to finish reading this, it is utterly, utterly horrendous.
              http://news.sky.com/story/1090724/ch...horrific-abuse

              Between this story and the one above, I don't know what to think or feel right now. I just don't have the mental/emotional apparatus to get some sort of grasp of it.
              Tis but a scratch.

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                #8
                Read that China story earlier & was sorry I did. Stuck his daughters head into a pot of boiling water. The Seventh layer of hell reserved for Mr. Yang the bollix
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                  #9
                  I really shouldn't have read these before going to bed.

                  Thats the stuff of nightmares.
                  Life is good

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                    #10
                    Some serious issues in there somewhere about men, their role in families, sex and respect for women as people.
                    I can't even frame what it is. As a father of a son I'm all the time worrying about the quality of man he will become given all the pressure from peers, movies, video games and the internet which promotes lazy, violent, misogynist selfishness as a worthy role model for men.
                    Munster – Champions of Europe 2006, 2008, 2019.

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                      #11
                      I've certainly noticed what I would see as a rise in violent misogyny over the last few years.

                      The "lad "culture of the nineties, which was epitomised by magazines like Nuts and Loaded, seems to have been succeeded by something entirely darker.

                      Online especially, people seem comfortable joking about rape and domestic violence in a way that I don't remember being the case a few years ago. There's been a marked growth in violent, degrading pornography and the rest of our culture is becoming increasingly "pornified". Lots of what is now mainstream music remains very sexist. The rape case where the two American students were convicted was shocking.

                      I'd say that, overall, it feels like we've gone backwards in the last ten years in terms of attitudes to women.
                      "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

                      "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


                      "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                        #12
                        15 May 2013
                        Cleveland kidnap accused Castro to plead innocent - lawyers The US man accused of imprisoning three women for about a decade in his house in Ohio will plead not guilty to all charges, his lawyers say.
                        Ariel Castro, aged 52, is charged with four counts of kidnapping and three counts of rape.
                        The women were abducted at different times and held in Mr Castro's house in Cleveland. One of them escaped earlier this month and raised the alarm.
                        "He's not a monster and he shouldn't be demonised," said lawyer Jaye Schlachet.
                        Speaking to the AFP news agency, he added that details of Mr Castro's innocence "will be disclosed as the case progresses".
                        Craig Weintraub, another defence lawyer, told WKYC-TV that his client "loves dearly'' the child he fathered with 27-year-old Amanda Berry - one of the three alleged kidnap victims.
                        The other women freed from Mr Castro's house were Gina DeJesus, 23, and Michelle Knight, 32.
                        Prosecutors in Ohio have said they also plan to seek aggravated murder charges that could carry the death penalty.
                        The charges relate to alleged forced miscarriages suffered by one victim
                        My computer thinks I'm gay
                        What's the difference anyway
                        When all the people do all day
                        Is stare into a phone

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                          #13
                          Have the Oxford gang been sentenced yet?

                          Either way, I wonder what the difference in punishment will be between the case in Oxford and the case in China.
                          On the internet, you can be anything you want. It always amazes me why so many people choose to be stupid.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by rathbaner View Post
                            Some serious issues in there somewhere about men, their role in families, sex and respect for women as people.
                            I can't even frame what it is. As a father of a son I'm all the time worrying about the quality of man he will become given all the pressure from peers, movies, video games and the internet which promotes lazy, violent, misogynist selfishness as a worthy role model for men.
                            There's a big movement within video games trying to counter this at the moment. It started from women within the games industry speaking out. Especially on Twitter with #onereasonwhy about sexism in the gaming industry, and then the positively slanted #onereasontobe about why women should be in the games industry. It's a bit of a battleground at the moment but there are definitely people fighting for a better games industry and community.
                            I know something that will blow your minds. I can't tell you and I can't tell you why I can't tell you. You'll know soon and then I'll be confirmed right.

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                              #15
                              My young lad (as ye already know) loves his games & although he does foray into the Call of Duty type games it's the creative games like Minecraft that really grasped his imagination. I was looking in the other day at the 'Jaffa cake factory he and his friend built, great big conveyor belts full of Jaffa Cakes heading for storage boxes. It was brilliant. The creative rather than the destructive is the emphasis.
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