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    Direct Democracy Ireland (DDI)

    Sounds like a DIY warehouse style party...Some reasonable or low budget quality to choose from, limited guarantees, but with a decent returns policy. In other words...modern progress that challenges the old model - a bit quirky, but appealing to the more fickle masses...

    irishtimes.com - Last Updated: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 13:05

    New political party launched



    A new political party, Direct Democracy Ireland, is to be officially launched today.
    Direct Democracy Ireland (DDI) wants to allow citizens to petition for a referendum on any issue.
    It also wants mechanisms introduced to grant the electorate the power to sack TDs and Senators who are not performing satisfactorily.
    Among the founders are Raymond Whitehead and Ben Gilroy.
    Raymond Whitehead ran as a first time independent candidate in the last year’s general election in Dublin South. He came to prominence in the 1980s when he owned a restaurant in Temple Bar and organised local residents and businesses to campaign against over-development of the district.
    Ben Gilroy is also part of a People for Economic Justice, a group which helps homeowners to fight repossessions.
    The organisation has been existence for a few years, and recently campaigned against the children’s referendum. It has only recently become an official party on the State’s register of political parties.

    #2
    OK...Whatever about Gilroy...and err....Raymond What'shisname...Could they actually muster-up some competence and honour to back-up what sounds idealogically like a good idea? It is "pure democracy" rather than "representative democracy" (AKA oligarchy) which is particularly unaccountable in Ireland compared to many other Western nations....

    I watch with interest to see if this sort of thing can at least scare up some forcing of at least answers and responsibility for actions...Sure we don't know what it's like to actually have a national government with the interests of the general populace on the agenda - I wonder if it will ever happen here by a domestic government.

    The pie in the sky is here:

    http://directdemocracyireland.ie/
    Last edited by No. 16; 14th-November-2012, 14:39.

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      #3
      If they want to garner any credibility then, whatever about Ray Whitehead, I'd stop putting Ben Gilroy's name to the forefront.
      "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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        #4
        See - that's the beauty of it - it doesn't matter - you can vote the party into power and then the first thing the people can do is have him sacked ;-)

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          #5
          There must be a modern, valid reason Irish people refuse to endorse new parties, it can't all be down to our peasant, big house mentality.

          If this currently economic malaise ended the gombeen culture for once and for it it'd be worth it but I suspect it'll only entrench it.
          It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

          Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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            #6
            Today is European day of action against austerity, strikes and protests are happening all over Europe, except for...

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              #7
              Originally posted by JoeyFantastic View Post
              There must be a modern, valid reason Irish people refuse to endorse new parties, it can't all be down to our peasant, big house mentality.

              If this currently economic malaise ended the gombeen culture for once and for it it'd be worth it but I suspect it'll only entrench it.
              I believe the reason is termed in psychology Catho-sado-masochism

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                #8
                Originally posted by Hugh Jardon View Post
                Today is European day of action against austerity, strikes and protests are happening all over Europe, except for...
                "Change is inevitable. Change is constant." - Benjamin Disraeli Obviously Benny was not talking about Ireland when he made that speech
                I am one of the 5 clowns woo hoo

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by JoeyFantastic View Post
                  There must be a modern, valid reason Irish people refuse to endorse new parties, it can't all be down to our peasant, big house mentality.

                  If this currently economic malaise ended the gombeen culture for once and for it it'd be worth it but I suspect it'll only entrench it.
                  I would have thought we were resonably successful in that regard given how long the PDs lasted and how important they became. It's not as if the Greens have been around since the Lock Out either.

                  Establishment parties are virtually impossible to shift in a developed Western Democracy.
                  "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hugh Jardon View Post
                    Today is European day of action against austerity, strikes and protests are happening all over Europe, except for...

                    Luxembourg?

                    San Marino?

                    Monaco?

                    Andorra?

                    Switzerland?

                    Vatican City?

                    Liechtenstein?

                    Eire?
                    New infraction avoidance policy: a post may be described as imbecilic, but its author should never be described as an imbecile.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jenta View Post
                      I would have thought we were resonably successful in that regard given how long the PDs lasted and how important they became. It's not as if the Greens have been around since the Lock Out either.

                      Establishment parties are virtually impossible to shift in a developed Western Democracy.
                      PD's fairly much sprang from the established parties though.

                      The Greens, maybe. Time will tell if they can recover.
                      It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

                      Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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                        #12
                        We have a long tradition of political parties coming and going from clann na talmhan, clann na phoblachta, (spelling?) to the various incarnations of the workings party, the greens and the pds
                        Though we still have sf, lab,ff and fg the rest are now all gone - sorry we have the socialist party and the people before profit crowds
                        Seven social sins: politics without principles, wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, and worship without sacrifice



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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hugh Jardon View Post
                          Today is European day of action against austerity, strikes and protests are happening all over Europe, except for...

                          The Germans and Danes are apparently holding "Rallies". I assume that involves sausages, beer and strudel...

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Old Dog View Post
                            Luxembourg?

                            San Marino?

                            Monaco?

                            Andorra?

                            Switzerland?

                            Vatican City?

                            Liechtenstein?

                            Eire?
                            In fairness OD only 2 of those countries in the EU and only 1 a banana republic / third world country
                            I am one of the 5 clowns woo hoo

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