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    next american president

    i know its a year and a half away yet,but im bored and was wondering who do ye want as the next president,personally i like ron paul but his chances of getting out of the republican primaries are between slim and none
    g\'wan bruff!!

    ``The answer is not heavy- handed regulations that crush the entrepreneurial spirit and risk- taking of American capitalism. That\'s what\'s made our economy great.\"
    -Barack Obama


    \"The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is never enough of anything to satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics\"
    -thomas sowell

    #2
    Gonna be Rudy innit.

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      #3
      teflon bertie
      \'For he that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart\'.
      Henry V - Battle of Agincourt 1415

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        #4
        The most odious and illqualified one will probabaly get it, for even the nomnation within the Republican party as Shrub's pupetteer's shameless smear campaign on John McCain in 2000 shows. Dont know thisRon Paul, but Ron Jeremy or Ronald McDonald would be a step up intellectually and idealogically from the present incumbent.
        Unrepentant Langer

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          #5
          Rudy or McCain, only Edwards is actually electable for the Democrats,
          unless Gore redeclares. No way is America ready to vote in a female or
          black president.
          It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

          Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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            #6


            ron paul is a fairly little known republican congressman,from texas who put his name forward.he was anti-war,and is opposed in general to american intervention abroad.hes also opposed to the death penalty and abortion.big advocate of small government and free trade.sort of an old school republican in many ways.unfortunately hes also in his 70s


            out of the main candidates i like mccain,and obama
            g\'wan bruff!!

            ``The answer is not heavy- handed regulations that crush the entrepreneurial spirit and risk- taking of American capitalism. That\'s what\'s made our economy great.\"
            -Barack Obama


            \"The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is never enough of anything to satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics\"
            -thomas sowell

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              #7
              Oprah.
              \"Hmm, no, I don\'t have a gambling problem, I\'m winning, and winning is not a problem. That\'s like saying Michael Jordan has a basketball problem, or Def Leppard has an awesomeness problem. So why don\'t y\'all pour some sugar on that?\"

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                #8


                Who ever has the closest ties to big business and the most dollars...
                Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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                  #9




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                  Giuliani's running away with the Republican nomination at the mo, rob won't last tho once the "Why were you married to you second debate?" kicks in and the NYFD are starting a campaign to shame him over his actions while mayor and a very liberal guy has feck all chance once we start seeing Primaries in S. Carolina and the rest of the south. Hard to call beyond that McCain's beginning to look very old and out of it, Mitt Romney (last Governor of Mass.) might be a decent outside bet.


                  Dems it's Obama or Hillary. I think there'll be an attempt to stop them tearing strips out of each other and stick Obama on the VP ticket cause this is really an election for the Dems to loose.

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                    #10
                    It doesn't really matter who gets it. He will look after the interests of big business and the ruling elite. Just like any British Prime Minister, he might tinker about with the economy, but basically things will remain the same. There will be no change in foreign policy and any country not falling into line will have aid withdrawn at best and their government overthrown at worst.
                    There are only two roads, victory for the working class, freedom, or victory for the fascists which means tyranny. Both combatants know what\'s in store for the loser.

                    Buenaventura Durruti

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by neiljung


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                      //->Giuliani's running away with the Republican nomination at the mo, rob won't last tho once the "Why were you married to you second debate?" kicks in and the NYFD are starting a campaign to shame him over his actions while mayor and a very liberal guy has feck all chance once we start seeing Primaries in S. Carolina and the rest of the south. Hard to call beyond that McCain's beginning to look very old and out of it, Mitt Romney (last Governor of Mass.) might be a decent outside bet.


                      Not forgetting divorcing his second wife live at a press conference without telling her about this in advance. One of her friends rang up the wife and told her she better turn on the TV.
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                        #12





                        McCain or Guiliani for the Republicans - McCain will get that.


                        Clinton/Obama/Edwards race for the Democrats - I don't think Gore will redeclare, though he should.


                        I think whoever gets Obama on their VP ticket will win - I think it will be an Edwards/Clinton race for the Democrats. Can't see Obama having the legs.


                        An Edwards/Obama ticket would walk into the White House. White Southern President with Black Vice.
                        "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

                        "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


                        "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                          #13
                          Gore could be playing it really well, if he has any intentions of
                          running. All the rest of the dems are already running around
                          spending big money, they are all getting attacked by their
                          competitors and conservvative opponents and they are all struggling
                          to find answers to various pressing issues, including Iraq.

                          Gore, on the other hand, has rebuilt his profile after 2000, he has
                          gotten, and continues to get, forests of free press coverage, he
                          manages to stay aloof from the current political snipping and fighting,
                          he isn't pressed on any other issue other than global warming,
                          although he has consistently opposed the war (as far as I know) and
                          he has the benefit, in the public mind, of no longer being associated
                          with politics in Washington.

                          He has said consistently that he won't run, but there is a 'draft gore'
                          movement trying to raise support for a possible run.

                          He could be the dark horse coming from te outside to finish strongly
                          by a head. (Still trying to get Cheltenham out of my system)

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                            #14


                            The election looks to be wide open, with almost every candidate having a lot of political baggage that would make them unpopular with their party or the public. So, Romney is a Mormon that had a fairly liberal record in Ma., Giuliani again has a very liberal record on social issues, and McCain has a record of not always backing conservative policies if he doesn't believe in them. As all the Republican candiates seem to be not conservative enough this factor could cancel itself out.


                            For the Democrats Obama seems to be the darling of the media right now, but polls show that he is very weak with black voters, which is surprising, maybe a lot of white voters like Obama because they like the notion of a black candidate. Hillary Clinton would probably be slaughtered by republicans if she got the nomination, she would certainly get the republican vote out. Youtube have good negative ad from a worker on Obama's campaign company on Hillary here.


                            The big difference with the US primaries this time is that most of the major States will hold their primaries within a month of the first one, with only four smaller states having their primaries before hand. So, California normally have their primary next June, but have joined Texas, Florida etc. in having theirs at the start of February. The importance of the smaller southern states should be lessened, which may play into the hands of a more liberal candidate.


                            I'd like McCain to win, but he could be too old.

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                              They might be reduced, Clon, but Kennedy aside Northern Democrats haven't fared well. Southern Democrats are more likely to carry the south, which is potentially a big swing.
                              "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

                              "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


                              "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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