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    @@@@SPAN =tkr_link>LATEST: 15 Royal Navy personnel seized by Iranian naval warships in Iraqi territorial waters. More details soon ...@@@@/SPAN>
    "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

    "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


    "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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    How fricking stupid is that?


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      #3


      Ahh for feck sake[img]smileys/shock.gif[/img]
      Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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        <DIV =sh>UK sailors captured at gunpoint </DIV></DIV></TD></TR>
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        <DIV><!- E IIMA -><!- S SF ->Fifteen British Navy personnel have been captured at gunpoint by Iranian forces, the Ministry of Defence says. </DIV>
        <DIV>The men were seized at 1030 local time when they boarded a boat in the Gulf, off the coast of Iraq, which they suspected was smuggling cars. </DIV>


        The Royal Navy said it was doing everything it could to secure the release of the sailors and marines who are based on HMS Cornwall.


        They were said to be carrying out a routine patrol in Iraqi waters. <!- E SF ->


        The Ministry of Defence said: "The group boarding party had completed a successful inspection of a merchant ship when they and their two boats were surrounded and escorted by Iranian vessels into Iranian territorial waters.


        "We are urgently pursuing this matter with the Iranian authorities at the highest level."


        It is understood the men being held are safe and well.


        Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett has summoned the Iranian ambassador to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, in an attempt to get the sailors and marines released as quickly as possible. </TD></TR></T></TABLE>
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          #5
          hmm, BBC reckon they were boarding a ship suspected of smuggling cars, if thats the case were the Iranians looking to deceive and capture some soldiers

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            The Israeli's will be loving this. They will bomb Irans nuclear / militaryfacilities first chance they get.
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            What's the difference anyway
            When all the people do all day
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              #7
              The brits will try and keep it friendly id say, not treatening military action but putting it down to a misunderstanding but if anything happens to them it could turn into a big deal, if was American sailors it may have been a declaration of war

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                #8


                god help us all, Bush will probably try to rescue them. Funny how wars seem to start over small things....
                Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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                  In 2004, Iran detained eight British servicemen for three days after they allegedly strayed over the maritime border.


                  The UK claimed the men were "forcibly escorted" into Iranian territorial waters.


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                  Has happened before, prob won't amount to much in the end.

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                    #10


                    Didn't something similar happen a year ago?. Bit of Diplomatic hoo-ha, some fist waving and the Brits were released 2 or 3 days later. Iranians have been trying to grab some offshore islands or claiming territorial waters there for years.


                    [img]smileys/c&#111;nfused.gif[/img]Mind you, if Herr Bush's advisors smell this as an opportunity, then that ramps it up the scale a bit.

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                      #11





                      It has happened before, but the context is a little different now. I think it's less a case of what the response would normally be, and more a case of what they decide to do with it.


                      "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

                      "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


                      "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                        #12
                        Anyone recall the pretext Germany used to invade Poland back in the
                        late 1930's, or even the one Israel used to level Lebanon last summer?
                        It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

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                          #13
                          Relax.. Britain isn't a world power..[img]smileys/c&#111;nfused.gif[/img]

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                            #14


                            the eyerainians are watching too many bond movies.

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                              #15


                              Originally posted by RobbieG
                              Relax.. Britain isn't a world power..[img]smileys/c&#111;nfused.gif[/img]

                              Wonder if anyone has mentioned that to Tony?
                              Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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