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    @@@@SPAN ="articledate">20 November 2006 @@@@/SPAN>

    @@@@SPAN ="articleline">Media ‘hypes and over-reports crime in Limerick’@@@@/SPAN>

    @@@@SPAN ="author">By Jimmy Woulfe, Mid-West Correspondent@@@@/SPAN>
    @@@@SPAN ="articlesummary">A LEADING academic said yesterday that statistics prove Limerick’s crime profile is hyped and over-reported by the media. @@@@/SPAN>

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    Professor Stephen O’Brien said garda crime figures do not support the image of the city as having a disproportionate level of serious crime.

    Prof O’Brien, head of the University of Limerick’s applied mathematics faculty, said he decided to research crime as it seemed to be a particular issue in Limerick.@@@@/SPAN>


    @@@@SPAN ="article">@@@@/SPAN>@@@@SPAN ="article">“It made me wonder how bad the situation really is. So I went looking. After a little searching, one comes across the crime statistics for 2005. And the results are really surprising: how many murders in Limerick in 2005? From media presentations, one would guess ‘many’. In fact for that year the figure is precisely one. Yes, one.

    “When I looked at the numbers I could not believe it. The figures for headline crime are also very interesting as they show a similar level of headline crime from for Cork and Limerick per 1,000 of population at around 28 crimes per 1,000. The corresponding figure for headline crime in Dublin was 120 per 1,000.”

    In 2005, Cork city had two murders and Dublin had 27.

    “This may be a particularly low murder figure for that year; Limerick does tend to have more murders than it should due to gangland/feuds. But nothing like what one would perceive from media hype. Three to four a year seems about normal.”

    Headline crimes per 1,000 of population for major centres of population for 2004 and 2005 were as follows:

    * Cork: 26.82 (2004); 27.81 (2005).

    * Limerick: 25.57 (2004); 31.85 (2005).

    * Dublin North Central: 119.72 (2005).

    * Dublin South Central: 95.78 (2005).

    Prof O’Brien said: “Similar trends apply for previous years. Limerick had slightly fewer headline crimes (per 1,000 population) than Cork in 2004 and slightly more in 2005. But inner city Dublin is three-to-four times as bad.”

    He said the conclusions of his research are obvious.

    “Dublin is by far the most dangerous place in the country. Headline crime figures in other urban areas are approximately the same; Dublin is seriously out of line. Limerick is more or less average.”

    He said the media are responsible for the unfair projection of Limerick as a place with a crime problem which is out of kilter with other cities except Dublin.

    He said some crimes which go unreported in Dublin would merit national headlines if they happened in Limerick.

    “A man went into a rugby club in Dublin recently and stabbed five people, singling out men wearing blazers. That only emerged in the media some weeks later when it was briefly mentioned in a Sunday newspaper as part of a story. Imagine what would have happened in the media if a similar attack occurred on a Saturday night in a Limerick rugby club.”

    He said the incident in which a five-year-old Southill boy was shot was also over-reported.

    “It went on for days in the media. If that happened in Dublin it would not have got the same treatment. And in one radio chat show, a guest mention about a ‘boy being murdered’ in Limerick and not one person contradicted him. There was a gut reaction.”@@@@/SPAN> </TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>
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    #2
    If the feuding scumbags were dealt with the stats would be considerably better again.



    The figures for Dublin are shocking frankly.

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      #3


      Yeah, I wonder just how much the crime rate would drop if you deported the feuders (?) to Tory Island or somwhere?


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        #4


        A friend of mine has worked as a doctor in the A+E departments in Cork and Limerick. He says that what he has seen on Cork is far worse than Limerick. Stuff like fella's being stabbed up the arse in punishment attacks. If the same thing happened in Limerick it make the 6 o'clock news.

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          #5
          I know that I feel much safer walking the streets of limerick that I do anywhere in Dublin. I live in Ranelagh which now has some lunatic attacking women between the hours of 3-5am around my area (the Hill pub). This guy made the headlines of the Metro. At least in Limerick you know the areas to avoid but Ranelagh is meant to be a 'good' area.

          Beyond the recent mentalist one of my housemates cars was spray painted, anothers was broken into, it's like beirut at Halloween (bonfire lit for 2 days). The house next door found a syringe in our shared area. Hello? nice area alright but no different from anywhere else I've lived in Dublin inc Baggot St, Temple Bar (you'd expect that there) and Ringsend (5 cars in underground burnt out while we slept above). Puts in into perspective tho. Crime in Limerick has always been over exposed by the media who only add feul to the fire cos it sells papers.

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            #6


            The media donthate Limerick. In fact they love Limerick. If there wasnt abloody fued going on they would have very little to report on.


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              #7





              Why not talk to Jimmy Woulfe, folks - he's the Limerick (?) man behind 90% of the Limerick bad news stories that hit the national media.
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                #8
                I credit the reporter Michael Walsh for starting the whole bad press for Limerick thing.




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                  #9
                  It all sounds very familiar to me. Give a dog a bad name. But don't expect the papers to allow the facts to get in the way of a bit of bone idle 'journalism'.
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                    #10


                    Anyone fancy a stroll around O'Malley park?


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                      #11
                      Originally posted by sewa


                      Anyone fancy a stroll around O'Malley park?





                      I'd swop ya a stroll around O'Malley Park for one in Knocka anyday.
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                        #12
                        Knocka?

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                          #13


                          Knocka is very tame by comparison. I've lived in both cities and Limerick is far worse. That's my honest opinion and I have the scars to back it up.


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                            Originally posted by Dermot G
                            Knocka?

                            Knocknaheeney. Its the area you drivepast as you come in from the limerick side.


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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Old Dog





                              Why not talk to Jimmy Woulfe, folks - he's the Limerick (?) man behind 90% of the Limerick bad news stories that hit the national media.


                              Barry Duggan does his bit too.

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