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    @@@@SPAN id=news_content>@@@@SPAN =storyline>First Assembly members returned@@@@/SPAN>
    @@@@SPAN =storytime>08/03/2007 - 15:09:03@@@@/SPAN>@@@@/SPAN>


    Democratic Unionist deputy leader Peter Robinson and Alliance deputy leader Naomi Long were today elected as the first members of the new Northern Assembly.

    Early indications from across the 18 constituencies suggested while the DUP and Sinn Féin were on course to make gains, Reg Empey's Ulster Unionists were under pressure in a number of constituencies.

    The SDLP were also fighting to hold on to their vote.

    Mr Robinson and Ms Long were elected in East Belfast where Empey just missed the quota.


    @@@@SPAN id=news_content2>The DUP were believed to be on course for three seats in the constituency after an impressive piece of vote management under the proportional representation system.

    However, Ulster Unionist Michael Copeland and Progressive Unionist leader Dawn Purvis were believed to be fighting it out for the sixth and final seat.

    PUP election workers for Ms Purvis were delighted that she managed to poll 3,045 votes, considering she was catapulted into standing in the constituency following the unexpected death in January of her predecessor David Ervine.

    In 2003, Mr Ervine managed to hold on to his Assembly seat with just 2,990 votes.@@@@/SPAN>

    #2


    Further polarisation in Norn Iron, do moderate unionists ( an oxymoron?) now vote for DUP?


    Do moderate nationalists ( is there such a breed?) now vote for Sinn Fein?


    Do moderates vote at all?


    Because it looks it looks like, once again, further gains for the extremists.

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      #3
      Who cares?[img]smileys/confused.gif[/img]

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        #4


        I'd be interested all right, I'd say though that the UUP are collapsing, that norniron are about to elect their first green and also their first ethnic minority representative in Anna Lo.


        Strangely enough the major winners are the DUP and the Alliance party, the uup are disappearing along with the UKIP.


        At a quick guess DUP 40, SF 26 UUP 15, SDLP 17,8 AP, 1 GP, 1 PUP
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          #5





          Good man Scottie - were you following it on RTE Radio this afternoon? Glad to see that the SDLP vote is hanging in there.


          I'd say that many moderate Unionist votes are going to Alliance or Green for tactical reasons - maybe one of our Northern visitors would care to comment?
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            #6
            Perhaps I have a slight bias in my maths towards the sdlp, but my figures show:

            DUP 37, SF 29, SDLP 17, UP 16, AP 7, GP 1, PUP 1






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              #7


              From RTE


              NI elections: Counts are adjourned


              Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:35


              Five counts in the Northern Ireland Assembly elections have now adjourned and will resume at 9am tomorrow.


              The current state of the parties is DUP 17 seats, Sinn Féin 18, SDLP 2, Ulster Unionists 2 and Alliance 1.


              DUP MLA for Belfast North Nigel Dodds said his party has been ready for government for a long time and that it was Sinn Féin who had dragged their feet on issues like policing.


              AdvertisementHe claimed that fissures were opening up beween Sinn Féin spokespersons on the policing issue.


              Mr Dodds said his own party had received an important mandate from the Unionist community who were saying his party had got the strategy right.


              He claimed the future of the North was now not about deadlines but about having conditions right.


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                #8


                UUP 'humiliation' in Assembly poll


                The Ulster Unionist Party has paid the price for its arrogant treatment of former members in the North’s Assembly Election, it was claimed tonight.


                Sir Reg Empey’s Ulster Unionists were arguably the biggest loser of the Assembly election as the Reverend Ian Paisley’s party surged ahead in the race to become the biggest party at Stormont.


                With all 18 constituencies declaring their first round of results, the UUP’s percentage share of the vote meant it had fallen behind the SDLP and was now the fourth largest party.


                It was also facing pressure in a number of constituencies to hold on to Assembly seats.


                Democratic Unionist MP Jeffrey Donaldson, who quit the Ulster Unionists after the last Assembly Election, told PA: “It’s been a good day for the DUP.


                “Our results right across the country have been a strong endorsement.


                “We have also seen a further reversal of the Ulster Unionists position where they have now dipped to an all-time low.


                “For Reg Empey, their party leader, to scrape in without reaching the quota in East Belfast on the first count is a personal humiliation and a marker of his failure to provide the leadership that the unionist community is demanding.


                “The UUP were given good advice over a number of years, but would not listen and they are now paying the price for their arrogance and their failure to heed those warnings.”


                In 1998, the Ulster Unionists had 21.25% of the vote, five years later they had 22.7%.


                But after the 2003 elections under David Trimble’s leadership, the party suffered the defection of three Assembly members including Mr Donaldson and Arlene Foster.


                The Westminster elections two years ago saw the party vote plummet to 17.7%, but they remained ahead of the SDLP.


                When the first preference votes were counted today, the Ulster Unionists stood at 14.9% compared to the SDLP’s 15.2%.


                By way of contrast, the DUP saw its vote increase from 25.6% in 2003 to 30%.


                Sinn Féin has also seen a growth in its votes from 23.5% in 2003 to 24.3% in the 2005 Westminster elections to 26.1% this time.


                The DUP was on course to make crucial gains in East Belfast, East Derry, Upper Bann, North Antrim and Strangford.


                The one minor disappointment was the likelihood that Dianne Dodds looked set to lose her West Belfast seat to Sinn Féin in the constituency.


                In an impressive piece of vote management, Gerry Adams and his running mates in West Belfast looked like they would all capture five seats.


                The most stunning success for Sinn Féin was in the unionist heartland of South Antrim where they parachuted senior member Mitchel McLaughlin, who topped the poll.


                Paul Butler was on course to capture Sinn Féin’s first-ever Assembly seat in the unionist dominated constituency of Lagan Valley.


                The party was also hopeful of capturing a third seat.


                Following Sinn Féin’s historic move to endorse the police in the North, the challenge from dissident republicans failed to make any dent electorally.


                Mark Durkan’s SDLP suffered a number of disappointments in key target constituencies and was struggling to hold on to seats in Lagan Valley and South Antrim.


                The party was particularly disappointed that one of its up and coming councillors Sharon Haughey failed to regain a seat in Newry and Armagh while Joe Boyle was also struggling to capture the first-ever nationalist seat in Strangford.


                The cross community Alliance Party appeared to have a sensational Assembly Election, increasing its percentage vote across the North by 1.5%.


                There was a strong possibility Alliance would return with one more seat to Stormont, with Hong Kong-born Anna Lo favourite to make a gain in South Belfast and become the first ever Chinese-born member of a devolved Assembly in the UK.
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                  #9
                  good early signs for Sinn Féin-great news
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                    #10





                    Great news right enough - the more votes that SF/IRA get the less the chance of the Assembly getting off the ground.


                    What I cannot understand is why gobshites like Adams, Paisley, McGuinness,Donaldson, etc. make grandiosedemands and set out positions that they simply cannot maintain, instead of keeping their big ignorant Todger mouths closed and trying to make progress quietly out of the limelight. It's a junior school playground level ofposturingand it makes them all look absolutely ridiculous.
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                      #11
                      Think their attracted to the sound of their own voices Old Dog just can not keep their traps shut.
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                        #12


                        Originally posted by McCloud
                        Think their attracted to the sound of their own voices Old Dog just can not keep their traps shut.

                        Yup - Adams and McGuinness both get aroused at the sight of a microphone being shoved into their faces - kind of reminds them of their trusty Armalites I suppose.
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                          #13

                          Originally posted by Old Dog

                          Originally posted by McCloud
                          Think their attracted to the sound of their own voices Old Dog just can not keep their traps shut.

                          Yup - Adams and McGuinness both get aroused at the sight of a microphone being shoved into their faces - kind of reminds them of their trusty Armalites I suppose.
                          Their ability to manage the vote in West Belfast looks shockingly scientific.

                          Gerry Adams SF Elected 6,029 17.8
                          Sue Ramsey SF Elected 4,715 14.0
                          Paul Maskey SF 4,368 12.9
                          Jennifer McCann SF 4,265 12.6
                          Fra McCann SF 4,254 12.6
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                            #14





                            Scientific is one word for it. It's actually more like a military campaign - whole streets are visited and told whom to vote for and when. I read some articles about it recently, it's quite hard to believe how tight the control is.
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                              #15
                              Yep Electioneering. Its awful. What i don't get is why people bother voting for the DUP and Shinners when all they do is fight with each other. I plan on getting out of as soon as i can, this wee 'country' has so much potential, pity its a bunch of scum bags trying to run it. I'm thoroughly depressed. Don't mind saying, i voted Alliance in north Belfast, one of 427 people to do so. That is a sad indicator of how polarised this society is, and it ain't getting any better.[img]smileys/sad.gif[/img][img]smileys/sad.gif[/img][img]smileys/sad.gif[/img]
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