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    527 suicides in 2009

    527 people died by suicide last year
    By Fiachra O Cionnaith
    Thursday, September 02, 2010
    THE country’s economic problems have contributed to the
    single biggest surge in suicides ever recorded in Ireland,
    according to a report.

    The National Office for Suicide Prevention’s (NOSP) annual
    report for 2009 has confirmed that last year a total of 527
    people officially died by suicide.

    The figure – 24% higher than the 424 deaths in 2008 which
    were counted before a change in Central Statistics Office
    (CSO) categorisations – is the single biggest year-on-year
    rise ever recorded.

    When a further 195 lost lives classified by inquests for a
    variety of reasons as "undetermined" with no third party
    being sought are included, the total number of deaths
    reaches 722 – the equivalent of two deaths every day.

    The HSE’s National Office for Suicide Prevention said the
    "dramatic change" was in line with the international trend of
    suicide levels increasing during a recession.

    The confirmation came just a day after it was revealed the
    taxpayer will have to pump an estimated €210 million
    every week into Anglo Irish Bank this year to cover its
    losses.

    Last year, Government spent just €5.6m funding 30
    separate suicide prevention projects, with an additional
    €1m now being made available from the dormant accounts
    as part of a "firm commitment" to address the issue.

    However, this new €6.6m sum is still 5,000 times less than
    the €31 billion paid to the banking sector since the
    economic crisis began.

    When the figures were first highlighted by the CSO at the
    end of June, the official statistics body said the substantial
    rise was linked to spiralling debt, marriage breakdown and
    depression.

    The conclusion has been repeatedly highlighted by groups
    such as 1Life, a 24-hour help-line manned by specialist
    counsellors and psychotherapists which was set up last
    October by Console and Turning the Tide of Suicide (3Ts)
    and is receiving more than 100 calls a day.

    Similar statements have been made by suicide intervention
    centre Pieta House, which last month reported a 60% year-
    on-year rise in children being referred to the group with
    suicidal tendencies.

    Both groups insist that due to coroners court issues, the
    true annual suicide figure is at least 100 to 200 people
    higher than what is being officially stated.

    According to the NOSP’s annual report figures, 422 men
    and 105 women are known to have died by suicide last
    year.

    One in three of all male deaths by external cause are
    known to have been suicides. The 20-24 age group
    remains the most at-risk time for men – with 34.7% of all
    male deaths last year relating to people in their early 20s,
    double the male average – while for women, it is the 50-54
    age group.

    During 2009, suicides are known to have involved people
    as young as the five-to-nine age group and as old as the
    85-plus bracket.

    The deaths included poisonings, hangings, drownings,
    firearms and other unspecified actions.

    - 1Life, 24-hour specialist helpline: 1800 247100.

    - HSE, 6pm to 10pm: free phone 1800 742745.

    This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish
    Examiner Thursday, September 02, 2010


    Read more: http://irishexaminer.ie/ireland/527-people-
    died-by-suicide-last-year-129620.html#ixzz0yKUSTfJH
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

    Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

    #2
    With the possibility that it could be as many as two people
    killing themselves a day, is this issue really getting the
    attention it deserves? Are people getting the support they
    deserve?
    It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

    Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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      #3

      Originally posted by JoeyFantastic
      With the possibility that it could be as many as two people

      killing themselves a day, is this issue really getting the

      attention it deserves? Are people getting the support they

      deserve?
      Probably not, to both questions. We're fairly well down the pecking order internationally though, although our rate is higher than many EU countries, according to wikipedia.

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        #4

        This comment may be somewhat misplaced, given that the semi-coherent, unthought ramblings of a former taoiseach are of little significance in comparison to the grim statistics above. Nevertheless, I hope somebody quotes that headline at Bertie in Cashel.

        In case anyone needs a reminder:
        "Sitting on the sidelines, cribbing and moaning is a lost opportunity. I
        don't know how people who engage in that don't commit suicide ..."

        What a cock-brained twunt.

        Tis but a scratch.

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          #5
          Those figures are frightening. Last April I got to experience
          first hand the tragedy that is suicide when I witnessed a well
          known person jump into the Shannon, I was also involved in
          his retrieval from the water, the poor man never regained
          consciousness and had life support switched off a week later.
          I had to give evidence at his inquest in June, and I must say
          that it had to be one of the most difficult experiences that I
          have had to go through, his poor family were devastated.
          "Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too ?" - Douglas Adams

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            #6


            a short answer to your question Joey..no. When you consider the effort being put into reducing road deaths, and rightly so, the equivilant and more should be put into an area where there is even more young people dying every day of the week.


            Taken from the Suicideawareness charity The 3T's:
            In the first half of 2009, the number of deaths by suicide rose dramatically by 35%, yet Government funding of organisations to cope with prevention, intervention and the aftermath decreased by 12.5% in the same year.
            The state provides no dedicated service for people in suicidal crisis.


            The government are fing money to build a tunnel between the Dail and the dept of Agriculture yet slash funding to these fantastic organisations. This was the reason behind our fundraising efforts over the summer (follow the link in the signature below), now we shouldnt have had to go door to door begging for money to help prevent people taking their own lives.


            There just isnt enough being put into this, it is still very much a taboo subject which in this day and age is unbelievable. We are afraid to talk about it and the consequences are horrific for those involved and their family's and friends.
            "Everything good about Ireland can be found in County Cork"....Lonely Planet Guide 2012

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              #7


              Terrible terrible numbers. Think comparing the funding going to support groups to the costs of Anglo is unhelpful. Far for revelent would be to compare the €6.6 million to what is put into say the RSA every year. Anyone know what the RSA get?


              It prettyshocking that so many people get to the pointthat they see no other option but taking their own life. Think I'll make an effort to talk to people more as society as a whole needs to help with this one.
              Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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                #8

                Originally posted by McCloud

                Terrible terrible numbers. Think comparing the funding going to support groups to the costs of Anglo is unhelpful. Far for revelent would be to compare the €6.6 million to what is put into say the RSA every year. Anyone know what the RSA get?


                It prettyshocking that so many people get to the pointthat they see no other option but taking their own life. Think I'll make an effort to talk to people more as society as a whole needs to help with this one.</span>
                That's the key isn't it. Talking to people more, listening to people more. For too long it's been the case that it isn't discussed, that it is a taboo subject, not by people not caring, but by not knowing how to respond, how to deal with it. I think that this is changing, slowly...but it is changing. I think that the Samaritans used to be a secretive, in that their volunteers wouldn't tell anyone that they were volunteering for them. That has changed, now the volunteers tell people that they are working there, counselling there. It has to become an open subject, so that the people who are in those situations feel that there is nothing wrong in talking about how they feel.
                On the internet, you can be anything you want. It always amazes me why so many people choose to be stupid.

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                  #9
                  More support is needed for the families of people who have taken their own lives. I know a man whose son was a young adult when he took his own life not too long ago. Seeing the mental torture the father has gone through since then has led me to understand that bereavement by suicide is one of the harshest, most brutally traumatic experiences one might have to endure.
                  Tis but a scratch.

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                    #10
                    The emphasis is still wrong though. The issue isnt suicide which is startling but mental health. 25% of us will have mental health problems in our life time. Which suggests that pretty much everyone of us will either have a mental health problem or have a close family member or friend have a problem.
                    The trouble is there is a stigma attached to mental health issues, taking time off at work for depression or stress will be detrimental to your future career prospects. So what are you going to do? Some doctors make out sick certs as bad flu as opposed to stress when telling people to take time off.
                    We need society to accept that this is society's problem. That by burying it we are only making the problem worse.
                    I would like to see a regular ad/programme on rte showing leading members of society like Dessie Farrell a couple of years ago, coming out and stating that they have had problems.

                    Another thing is that the emphais should be on Mental wellbeing

                    Seven social sins: politics without principles, wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, and worship without sacrifice



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                      #11
                      When you consider the attention road safety is given (and rightly so), the exposure which suicide gets is shocking.
                      \"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies. My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness\".
                      Dalai Lama

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                        #12

                        Originally posted by scotscor
                        The emphasis is still wrong though. The issue isnt suicide which is startling but mental health. 25% of us will have mental health problems in our life time. Which suggests that pretty much everyone of us will either have a mental health problem or have a close family member or friend have a problem.
                        The trouble is there is a stigma attached to mental health issues, taking time off at work for depression or stress will be detrimental to your future career prospects. So what are you going to do? Some doctors make out sick certs as bad flu as opposed to stress when telling people to take time off.
                        We need society to accept that this is society's problem. That by burying it we are only making the problem worse.
                        I would like to see a regular ad/programme on rte showing leading members of society like Dessie Farrell a couple of years ago, coming out and stating that they have had problems.

                        Another thing is that the emphais should be on Mental wellbeing
                        Good post. I saw that UTV recently ran a series of ads about mental wellbeing.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Woggas
                          Originally posted by McCloud


                          Terrible terrible numbers. Think comparing the funding going to support groups to the costs of Anglo is unhelpful. Far for revelent would be to compare the €6.6 million to what is put into say the RSA every year. Anyone know what the RSA get?


                          It prettyshocking that so many people get to the pointthat they see no other option but taking their own life. Think I'll make an effort to talk to people more as society as a whole needs to help with this one.

                          That's the key isn't it. Talking to people more, listening to people more. For too long it's been the case that it isn't discussed, that it is a taboo subject, not by people not caring, but by not knowing how to respond, how to deal with it. I think that this is changing, slowly...but it is changing. I think that the Samaritans used to be a secretive, in that their volunteers wouldn't tell anyone that they were volunteering for them. That has changed, now the volunteers tell people that they are working there, counselling there. It has to become an open subject, so that the people who are in those situations feel that there is nothing wrong in talking about how they feel.

                          The Samaritan's anonymity wasn't about stigma, though. It was about the fear that if someone knew that a friend of relative volunteered then they might not call for fear of speaking to them.


                          Much as the work being done by the Samaritans and other charities is vital and needs support, half the problem is in seeing "suicide" as an issue. The issues are unemployment, abuse,isolation,marital breakdown etc etc. Lots of work also needs to be done in addressing those.


                          McCloud is right though - we can all do a bit more I think. Makeourselves available to that friend who wants to catch up, offer an ear when peopleare unloading. Just generally being nicer to people.
                          "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

                          "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


                          "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                            #14



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                            Or maybe someone who was indifficulty calling to their house at 2 in the morning ?

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                              #15


                              For every 1 female suicide there's 4 male according to the stats in theopening post. Ive read thosenumbers are in line with other EU countries as well. A large % of male suicides are in their early 20's.Whatare posters views on why far more mencommit suicide than women?

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