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    Originally posted by Daithi View Post

    But FEAR is such a thrill for many Wm, that they'll miss it when it's gone.

    Some people get off on crises, the more fear & hardship the better, they'll be feeling a little deflated by all this good news and positive indicators of the decline of the disease in the community.

    I mean how can they alarm themselves & their neighbours if we can get back to normal!?
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        Originally posted by Balla Boy View Post



        It does seem to be. There haven't been many surges post lock down, though it's the systems with better testing that have managed to spot them.


        The WHO has been very sceptical about the idea that the virus is becoming more benign, so perhaps its masks etc that are making the big difference?


        The variable that I think is difficult to account for at the moment is work. If we look at how transmission clusters have happened at parties, events and work places, it does seem to be prolonged exposure that ups the numbers.


        I suspect we'll need to see what happens when people are back in the same room for hours on end....
        I don't see a "normal" return to work for a very long time tbh.

        We've been told that our offices are to remain closed to all but a handful of people until at least Sept. Even then, we've been told that it will be a max 20% occupancy.

        Some of the data coming out of the States is worrying as well. Arizona, Florida, North Carolina and South Carolina are seeing massive spikes. Australia is re-tighting restrictions in Victoria. Turkey and Palestine are re-imposing lockdowns.

        Let's hope that trace and trace is working worldwide soon.
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            A strange feature of co-vid is the incidence of infection is much less in persons of low testosterone.
            On the other hand, if they do get infected......they are more likely to join the choir invisible.
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              Germany's R rate has gone from less than 1 to 2.88 in a week.

              Lots of mini outbreaks in meatpacking factories across the US, UK and Europe. Some suggestion that that the operating temperature of mean processing plants (usually 5 degrees C) is helping preserve the virus.

              ​​​Which wouldn't be good news for winter time.

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                Originally posted by fitzy73 View Post
                Germany's R rate has gone from less than 1 to 2.88 in a week.

                Lots of mini outbreaks in meatpacking factories across the US, UK and Europe. Some suggestion that that the operating temperature of mean processing plants (usually 5 degrees C) is helping preserve the virus.

                ​​​Which wouldn't be good news for winter time.
                Really, the jump in Germany's R number was that much?

                Sounds extremely high tbh.

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                  Originally posted by fitzy73 View Post
                  Germany's R rate has gone from less than 1 to 2.88 in a week.

                  Lots of mini outbreaks in meatpacking factories across the US, UK and Europe. Some suggestion that that the operating temperature of mean processing plants (usually 5 degrees C) is helping preserve the virus.

                  ​​​Which wouldn't be good news for winter time.
                  Originally posted by Daithi View Post

                  Really, the jump in Germany's R number was that much?

                  Sounds extremely high tbh.
                  Germanys cases are so low that any large cluster will throw their R rate way off.

                  https://twitter.com/SimonGleave/stat...06068905709572

                  The outbreak in Germany leading to this high R is in a meat plant where over 1300 people (thanks @TobiasEscher) have tested positive, most without symptoms. This is very important.



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                      Originally posted by tippete7trees View Post
                      A strange feature of co-vid is the incidence of infection is much less in persons of low testosterone.
                      On the other hand, if they do get infected......they are more likely to join the choir invisible.
                      Women?
                      "There are a lot of points that we’ve left behind and this is with a young group. That probably tells you what they’re capable of and that they’re a very good side.

                      Probably next year or the year after next they will take some stopping"

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                        Originally posted by Wallyman View Post



                        Germanys cases are so low that any large cluster will throw their R rate way off.

                        https://twitter.com/SimonGleave/stat...06068905709572

                        The outbreak in Germany leading to this high R is in a meat plant where over 1300 people (thanks @TobiasEscher) have tested positive, most without symptoms. This is very important.


                        Correct, which is why local trace and track is essential. Things get out of hand v v quickly if the your local track and trace fails.

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                          Originally posted by Waterfordlad View Post

                          Women?
                          Women also have testosterone. I'm surprised you of all people don't know that. You obviously don't go clubbing in Waterford any more
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                            Originally posted by fitzy73 View Post

                            Correct, which is why local trace and track is essential. Things get out of hand v v quickly if the your local track and trace fails.

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                            Absolutely. We need to live with this and track & trace is essential to this.

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                              The news this morning seems...discouraging. Cases climbing quickly again in the US, record level of hospitalisations in California, 20% of Covid tests in Arizona coming back positive, 22 new cases in Beijing, German cases climbing again.

                              "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

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                                Originally posted by Balla Boy View Post

                                The news this morning seems...discouraging. Cases climbing quickly again in the US, record level of hospitalisations in California, 20% of Covid tests in Arizona coming back positive, 22 new cases in Beijing, German cases climbing again.
                                Saw a comment from one US expert yesterday: "Forget about a 2nd wave or a 3rd wave or 4th wave, we are heading into a forest fire of a 1st wave".
                                Generally, Bolton's comments about no plan or rationale other than what Trump thinks will help his reelection.......a NY mark2 virus disaster for the US always looked the most likely.
                                Staggering incompetence.
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