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    This is on the FRONT PAGE of the Sydney Morning Hearld[img]smileys/shock.gif[/img]





    Telegraph, May 19, 2009 <O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS><O><ST1:CITY w:st="&#111;n">


    HUNDREDS of Catholic priests are expected to be implicated in child abuse in <ST1[IMG]SMILEYS w:st="&#111;n" razz.gif[="" &gt;="" img]lace=""><ST1:COUNY-REGI&#111;N w:st="&#111;n">Ireland</ST1:COUNY-REGI&#111;N></ST1[IMG]SMILEYS><O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    The Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse has spent nine years looking into allegations, some of which date back more than 60 years, from thousands of former residents of state schools and orphanages. It is due to report tomorrow, and the commission will publish a second report, on how the church handled sex abuse complaints, in July.<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    It is thought about 500 priests in the diocese of <ST1:CITY w:st="&#111;n"><ST1[IMG]SMILEYS w:st="&#111;n" razz.gif[="" img]lace="" &gt;dublin=""></ST1[IMG]SMILEYS></ST1:CITY>alone have been implicated.<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    Many thousands of children sent to institutions suffered at the hands of religious orders such as the Christian Brothers and Sisters of Mercy. Most of the children were born to unmarried mothers or came from large, impoverished families that could not afford to keep them.<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    The commission was founded in 2000 after a documentary for Irish television said there had been widespread sexual, physical and emotional abuse within Catholic institutions.<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    Mary Raftery, who produced the program, said the abuse suffered was "way off the scale and designed to break children".<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    At Easter the Archbishop of Dublin, Diarmuid Martin, warned churchgoers that when published the report would "shock us all".<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    "It is likely that thousands of children or young people across <ST1:COUNY-REGI&#111;N w:st="&#111;n"><ST1[IMG]SMILEYS w:st="&#111;n" razz.gif[="" img]lace="" &gt;ireland=""></ST1[IMG]SMILEYS></ST1:COUNY-REGI&#111;N>were abused by priests in the period under investigation, and the horror of that abuse was not recognised for what it is," he said during his Holy Thursday homily.<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    In 2003 the government offered compensation to victims of institutionalised child abuse. It was expected to cost $1.5 billion.<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    The estimated bill was based on just 10,000 of the 150,000 victims coming forward. If all survivors claimed, the Republic could face a bill of about $22 billion.<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    In the second report the church is likely to face heavy criticism for trying to cover up abuse when it emerged ome instances the church simply moved abusive priests from parish to parish to avoid scandal.<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    "The way the church handled the scandals, as we now know, was not exemplary, to put it mildly," said Father Vincent Twomey, Professor Emeritus of Moral Theology at the National University of Ireland.<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    However, he praised actions taken by the church to stop future abuse.<O[IMG]SMILEYS razz.gif[="" img]&gt;=""></O[IMG]SMILEYS>


    Guidelines are now in place to protect children. In 2006 the National

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      #3
      and while i detest all ofrms of religon let's just be aware that this is a report on child abuse, not sexual abuse.

      Bullying, physical abuse, sexual abuse will all be covered in this......

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        #4
        From what I have heard, Cloyne will be nothing on this.

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          #5


          Looks like the tax payer will be taking another big hit on the pay outs...
          Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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            #6
            RTE[img]smileys/sad.gif[/img]
            Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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              #7
              Top story on the Beeb news website now.....
              Victi vincimus (Conquered, we conquer) - Plautus

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                Sometimes I can't help but feel that we would have been better off if we'd stayed part of the UK.[img]smileys/sad.gif[/img]


                The terms of reference of this report seem only to encompass institutions, so that the victims of "regular" priests like Fortune and Smyth wouldn't be included in it.
                \"This year is different because this year they won\'t beat snow off a rope. They\'ll revert back to type and get 6 shades of s**t bate out of them in the group stages of the HEC ...\" Tobyglen 21 Sept 2010

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Combatlogo

                  Sometimes I can't help but feel that we would have been better off if we'd stayed part of the UK.[img]smileys/sad.gif[/img]


                  The terms of reference of this report seem only to encompass institutions, so that the victims of "regular" priests like Fortune and Smyth wouldn't be included in it.
                  what exactly would stayingpart of britain have done to help

                  [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]oubt:

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by whynot
                    Originally posted by Combatlogo


                    Sometimes I can't help but feel that we would have been better off if we'd stayed part of the UK.[img]smileys/sad.gif[/img]



                    The terms of reference of this report seem only to encompass institutions, so that the victims of "regular" priests like Fortune and Smyth wouldn't be included in it.

                    what exactly would stayingpart of britain have done to help

                    [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]oubt:

                    We wouldn't have become a theocracy answerable to Rome.
                    \"This year is different because this year they won\'t beat snow off a rope. They\'ll revert back to type and get 6 shades of s**t bate out of them in the group stages of the HEC ...\" Tobyglen 21 Sept 2010

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                      #11

                      Originally posted by Combatlogo
                      Originally posted by whynot
                      Originally posted by Combatlogo


                      Sometimes I can't help but feel that we would have been better off if we'd stayed part of the UK.[img]smileys/sad.gif[/img]



                      The terms of reference of this report seem only to encompass institutions, so that the victims of "regular" priests like Fortune and Smyth wouldn't be included in it.

                      what exactly would stayingpart of britain have done to help

                      [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]oubt:

                      We wouldn't have become a theocracy answerable to Rome.
                      It certainly worked for Jersey!
                      Dublin Northeast FF free since Feb 27th 2011

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                        #12
                        I am just reading through the executive summary at the moment. It is brutal, savage, harrowing and unforgivable. What are we that we would inflict such torture and depravity on innocent children for many, manyyears with the full blessing of those in authority?
                        Bagáiste ar phriacal an úinéara.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Combatlogo
                          Originally posted by whynot
                          Originally posted by Combatlogo


                          Sometimes I can't help but feel that we would have been better off if we'd stayed part of the UK.[img]smileys/sad.gif[/img]


                          The terms of reference of this report seem only to encompass institutions, so that the victims of "regular" priests like Fortune and Smyth wouldn't be included in it.

                          what exactly would stayingpart of britain have done to help [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]oubt:

                          We wouldn't have become a theocracy answerable to Rome.
                          cantebury or rome the priests are what they are or were, the goverment of the times have a lot to answer for the gardai have as much to answer for and the press which lets be honest must have heard something before the 90,s have as much to answer for

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by whynot
                            Originally posted by Combatlogo
                            Originally posted by whynot
                            Originally posted by Combatlogo



                            Sometimes I can't help but feel that we would have been better off if we'd stayed part of the UK.[img]smileys/sad.gif[/img]



                            The terms of reference of this report seem only to encompass institutions, so that the victims of "regular" priests like Fortune and Smyth wouldn't be included in it.


                            what exactly would stayingpart of britain have done to help [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img]oubt:


                            We wouldn't have become a theocracy answerable to Rome.

                            cantebury or rome the priests are what they are or were, the goverment of the times have a lot to answer for the gardai have as much to answer for and the press which lets be honest must have heard something before the 90,s have as much to answer for

                            Was living in Artane (near the work house)when some of these stories were coming out. Remember going for a walk one evening past the school met and old lady crying her eyes out asked her if she was alright. She said we all knew we could hear the screams at night and we did nothing. In those days it would have taken a very brave person to go up against the clergy.
                            Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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                              #15


                              Ithink of my ownyoungfellas and try to imagine the absolute savagery and horror that a 4/6/10 yr old would suffer at the hands of these creatures. I knew this report was coming but it has hit me a lot harder than I imagined. That's probably a good thing though.
                              'In excess of 800 individuals were identified as physically and/or sexually abusing the witnesses as children in those settings.'
                              executive summary
                              Full report
                              Bagáiste ar phriacal an úinéara.

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