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  • Hugged Rugger
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    ​​​​​Gardaí in Cork have foiled what they believe was a planned looting attack on a sports shop in the city centre on Friday night when over 100 masked youths began gathering on Patrick Street.

    It is understood a group of youths from Dublin carried out a reconnaissance on the sports shop on Thursday and then urged people to turn up in Patrick Street on Friday evening dressed in black and wearing masks.

    Over 100 youths dressed in black, some carrying balaclavas, began gathering at Winthrop Street around 5.30pm, and gardaí believe they planned to storm a nearby sports shop in a bid to steal and loot.

    Gardaí had learned of the planned looting, and a large number of gardaí including members of the Public Order Unit, the armed Regional Support Unit,plainclothes detectives and uniformed officers were on standby.

    Gardaí believe the youths abandoned any plans to loot the sports shop when they saw the large number of gardaí on Patrick Street, and they gradually dispersed without anyone being arrested.

    It is believed to be one of the first such cases of social media-organised looting in Ireland. The organisers, it is believed, were inspired by similar lootings organised on social media in a number of British cities in recent day

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  • Hugged Rugger
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    Thank goodness we don't have corporal punishment anymore or the current soft touch youths of Ireland might have turned out to be violent and lawless gangs

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  • tippete7trees
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    The only disappointing thing about that is they didn't tazer or 'restrain' the beast during arrest.

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  • Sulla
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    This could be either be a big development for the better or worse... Main suspect in Kevin Lunney abduction and torture dies during police raid


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crim...raid-1.4076596

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-38673381.html

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  • whimpersnap
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    Originally posted by tippete7trees View Post

    Presume you mean "wouldn't".

    They never learn.
    If SQ is behind this, and it's hard to see who else would be, then he's really playing with fire. There's going to be a serious effort by the state to break this gang. If it goes on to murder.........that will only underline that. Criminals never learn. Challenge the state, and they'll leave no stone upturned to get you. The most recent case, the murder of Garda O'Donoghue, in spite of blanket omerta in the badlands, they have their man and his trial at the SCC comes up shortly. I'd be amazed if they don't have their evidential ducks well lined up for this feral sub human specimen. He will cool his heels for the next 40 years in the nick.
    No, I mean you'd wonder why somebody has to distance themselves from the New IRA. Most of us seem to get by without being linked to them.

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  • Stanley
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    Personally reckon SQ was paying protection money for years and has now called in the insurance clause as all his chances v the State for compo etc., are now blown.

    Nearly all of SQ's businesses were based on undercutting the competition and using borrowings to do so.

    The cashflow for QI was literally his personal ATM machine to do what he wanted and successive FF led Govts let him get away with it.

    Someone has these criminals under serious kosh to force them to do what they have done and threaten the lives of the executives, the chances of being caught and into the slammer are huge.

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  • tippete7trees
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    Originally posted by whimpersnap View Post
    You'd wonder why Sean Quinn would distance himself from the New IRA.
    Presume you mean "wouldn't".

    They never learn.
    If SQ is behind this, and it's hard to see who else would be, then he's really playing with fire. There's going to be a serious effort by the state to break this gang. If it goes on to murder.........that will only underline that. Criminals never learn. Challenge the state, and they'll leave no stone upturned to get you. The most recent case, the murder of Garda O'Donoghue, in spite of blanket omerta in the badlands, they have their man and his trial at the SCC comes up shortly. I'd be amazed if they don't have their evidential ducks well lined up for this feral sub human specimen. He will cool his heels for the next 40 years in the nick.

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  • whimpersnap
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    You'd wonder why Sean Quinn would distance himself from the New IRA.

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  • Stanley
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    SQ was dealing successfully in CFDs in other companies, he may well have been a King in Cavan but he saw a way through Anglo of becoming King Celtic Tiger, his ambition was way beyond his abilities.

    It is very strongly rumoured that it was J P McManus on the other side of the CFDs, his presence alone should have made SQ rethink, JP has the best connections on what happens in the Irish economy and is not taxed/ruled by a Superego.

    JP won out and again it is strongly rumoured profits on SQ CFDs were to the tune of 8/900m perhaps Adare Manor should be renamed CFD Manor.

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  • Sulla
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    Originally posted by tippete7trees View Post

    There's plenty of sadistic individuals out there looking for justification. But I think you over complicate this story. Sean Quinn was like a king in the Cavan/ Fermanagh locality. He brought a lot of jobs and was generous and very well liked. He feels aggrieved at his financial demise because he sees that Anglo hid their disastrous finances from him and were using his investments to try and bolster confidence in the bank. He took a gamble when the odds were much higher than he imagined. But he took a gamble and was responsible for it. It's very hard to see why dissidents would go after the current management since most of the business is still there and thriving and key to the local economy. The obvious reason is that Sean Quinn and family want to motivate the management to get out and let him regain control of the business. Maybe the mistake was the thugs went further than they were supposed to go.
    Nail on the head there, thugs who did it are hired by those who want SQ back in charge. SQ has consistently vilified and run down the Quinn Holdings Co. And its directors, even though in it's current form is very successful as a co. and a major employer, SQ just want his baby back obviously some will stop at nothing to help him.

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  • tippete7trees
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    Originally posted by Hugged Rugger View Post
    Whatever motives they had it takes a particular type of monster to torture someone like that.

    I don't know much about the management but I'm guessing this guy is a businessman who did nothing wrong but rub up some fanatics the wrong way by being involved in the takeover?
    There's plenty of sadistic individuals out there looking for justification. But I think you over complicate this story. Sean Quinn was like a king in the Cavan/ Fermanagh locality. He brought a lot of jobs and was generous and very well liked. He feels aggrieved at his financial demise because he sees that Anglo hid their disastrous finances from him and were using his investments to try and bolster confidence in the bank. He took a gamble when the odds were much higher than he imagined. But he took a gamble and was responsible for it. It's very hard to see why dissidents would go after the current management since most of the business is still there and thriving and key to the local economy. The obvious reason is that Sean Quinn and family want to motivate the management to get out and let him regain control of the business. Maybe the mistake was the thugs went further than they were supposed to go.

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  • Hugged Rugger
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    Whatever motives they had it takes a particular type of monster to torture someone like that.

    I don't know much about the management but I'm guessing this guy is a businessman who did nothing wrong but rub up some fanatics the wrong way by being involved in the takeover?

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  • tippete7trees
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    Those behind this clearly believe they are Sean Quinn supporters. What could be in it for them just to attempt mayhem over what they might consider as Sean Quinn getting a rough deal unless they have been encouraged down that road? And who would have any motive to encourage them? Sean Quinn's protestations ring very very hollow.
    Anyway, they have likely gone too far this time and there will be consequences.

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  • Stanley
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    Originally posted by Sulla View Post
    Can't find the Quinn thread, so into the Crime one, no difference..

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-38509949.html

    Seán Quinn says family ‘outraged’ by ‘barbaric’ attack on Kevin Lunney

    Senior Quinn executive abducted and beaten on way home from work
    www.irishtimes.com





    "Mr Quinn pointed out that “these guys sacked me over three years ago” and he had not been involved in the company since then. The attack “just doesn’t make any sense, that’s not what moral individuals do to each other.”


    Daddy did not like one bit when his former employees dumped him out on his arse as from his consultancy role as SQ tried to take back the company.



    "There was a lot of conflict in the area because of legal proceedings.
    Mr Quinn said that the ongoing issue of ill feeling in the community could be resolved if Quinn executives met with the community to address concerns rather than issuing legal proceedings.
    “We’re out of it, but there is an ongoing problem. I’m not blaming any one, but proceedings shouldn’t be in court, they should sit around a table.”



    What legal proceedings is SQ on about.
    Republican groups brought the UK Govt to the negotiating table through the rifle and the bomb, isn't what happened to Kevin Lunney very similar.

    People describe SQ as a former billionaire, he never was, it was all borrowed monies and some are still effectively under his control overseas

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  • mr chips
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    Jesus, that's horrific.

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