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    Bush’s Legacy



    Great article here with different writers in the States discussing the legacy of the Bush years. Tobias Wolff's piece is excoriating!


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008...orge-bush-lega cy-usa
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    #2
    In all fairness to Bush though he has some reaction speeds
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7782774.stm
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      #3
      How did a man willing to flake a shoe in such a manner get within an ass's roar of the President of the US? Secret Service heads may roll.
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        #4
        Pity it wasn't loaded with dung and hit the target!
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          #5


          It's more than shoes he should have thrown.
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            #6


            as for his legacy is general,i think it depends on what happens in the future.


            Truman was massively unpopular when he left office(unpopular war,economy not doing great,ring any bells?),but is now seen in a much better light.


            If Iraq and Afghanistan are stable democratic and fairly properpous in 10 or more years.people will look back on his legacy in a much different light.


            Really depends
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              #7
              What chances would you give of Iraq and Aghanistan being stable democracies within ten years though?

              Anyway, even if such a miracle were to occur it still wouldn't justify the invasions.

              "It’s not the team you support, it’s the club you should support. The team on the pitch will ebb and flow because that’s the nature of sport. No team has ever been successful decade on decade. The club has the history and that’s the passion you should have."

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                #8
                Originally posted by bruffian


                as for his legacy is general,i think it depends on what happens in the future.


                Truman was massively unpopular when he left office(unpopular war,economy not doing great,ring any bells?),but is now seen in a much better light.


                If Iraq and Afghanistan are stable democratic and fairly properpous in 10 or more years.people will look back on his legacy in a much different light.


                Really depends


                Don't think the families of the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and Afghanis will ever look at his legacy in a different light.
                Free Palestine.

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                  #9
                  Hopelessly off the mark there Bruffian. Harry Truman didn't believe the world was 4000 years old nor have a mission to save us from our version of infidels and, as far as I recall it was he who came up with the sign that said "the buck stops here".

                  Bush doesn't have nor ever had a single redeeming feature. A nothing elected by a cabal of redneck morons and yokels.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hopelessly Devoted
                    Originally posted by bruffian


                    as for his legacy is general,i think it depends on what happens in the future.


                    Truman was massively unpopular when he left office(unpopular war,economy not doing great,ring any bells?),but is now seen in a much better light.


                    If Iraq and Afghanistan are stable democratic and fairly properpous in 10 or more years.people will look back on his legacy in a much different light.


                    Really depends


                    Don't think the families of the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and Afghanis will ever look at his legacy in a different light.


                    the familes of the millions of dead vietnamese,dont seem to have left much of a smirch on the overall legacy of Kennedy and Johnson.If fact vietnam has good relations with the US on the whole now. Things change. Whilst America started the war.the majority of civilians at this stage have been killed by insurgents.


                    That why you have groups of sunni muslims fighting alongside americans in parts of Iraq.


                    the families of the hundreds of thousands of dead german civilians,didnt seem to hold any massive grudge towards the allies(soviets aside) after the war.


                    The Japanese very quickly built up good relations with the Americans after WW2,despite the stomin bombings.


                    Time changes a lot.





                    g\'wan bruff!!

                    ``The answer is not heavy- handed regulations that crush the entrepreneurial spirit and risk- taking of American capitalism. That\'s what\'s made our economy great.\"
                    -Barack Obama


                    \"The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is never enough of anything to satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics\"
                    -thomas sowell

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                      #11


                      Originally posted by Clubman
                      Hopelessly off the mark there Bruffian. Harry Truman didn't believe the world was 4000 years old nor have a mission to save us from our version of infidels and, as far as I recall it was he who came up with the sign that said "the buck stops here".

                      Bush doesn't have nor ever had a single redeeming feature. A nothing elected by a cabal of redneck morons and yokels.

                      Did Bush ever actually say he thought the world was 4000 years old?? wa sreading just yesterday that he said he didnt take the bible literally.


                      Truman did try to save the world from infidels.It was just that in his time the infidels were the "commies" and not Muslims extremists.


                      Korea wasnt all that popular either
                      g\'wan bruff!!

                      ``The answer is not heavy- handed regulations that crush the entrepreneurial spirit and risk- taking of American capitalism. That\'s what\'s made our economy great.\"
                      -Barack Obama


                      \"The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is never enough of anything to satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics\"
                      -thomas sowell

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                        #12
                        Defending Bush? You are taking the piss surely
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                          #13


                          Originally posted by sewa
                          Defending Bush? You are taking the piss surely

                          What he said.
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                          Champions aren\'t made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision.
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                            #14


                            not defending him.didnt agree with the iraq war,or many of his general policies.


                            dont agree with guantanamo,and i think he ran the countries economy into the ground by borrowing too much and running up huge debt and abandoning Republican principles. increasing the size of govt etc.


                            Im just pointing out that time changes things.People will look back differently if Iraq becomes a stable,democratic,prosperous country. That is all.its only natural
                            g\'wan bruff!!

                            ``The answer is not heavy- handed regulations that crush the entrepreneurial spirit and risk- taking of American capitalism. That\'s what\'s made our economy great.\"
                            -Barack Obama


                            \"The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is never enough of anything to satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics\"
                            -thomas sowell

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                              #15
                              He has Bruffian. And much worse. I have a source that will give you chapter and verse. I'm not that great in the research department as to who said what when but if you're interested i'll come up with lots of rope for the twit to hang hisself.

                              Thought the Jay Leno comment was brill.

                              Seems Dubya bought a pad in Dallas for $2m. Leno reckoned he did such a whiz bang job of the economy,he didn't have to pay last years price of $10m. [img]smileys/lol.gif[/img]

                              Oh, while we're at it, did Harry have the Enron crowd around him endlessly telling him what to do?

                              Methinks you are being subjected to a surplus of Republican tosh. Careful. It can happen the best of us.[img]smileys/wink.gif[/img]

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