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    Originally posted by Major TNT View Post
    Id question how many are there for "frivolous" reasons. Do you have figures to support that statement? How many are sent home not needing any treatment would be an indicator.

    any besides even if they show up and nothing is wrong surely it shouldn't take long for a medic to figure that out.
    My gosh you're a ##mod edit##. Off to ignoreland.
    Last edited by ick; 10-June-2015, 13:04. Reason: rules
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      Originally posted by B.A. View Post
      My gosh you're a ##mod edit##. Off to ignoreland.
      jaysus, what must you think of those that say they're running the HSE then!

      all I asked was had he the figures to show how many people were showing up to A&E for "frivolous" reasons.

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        Originally posted by fitzy73 View Post
        A friend sent me this yesterday - from the Regional in Limerick ... jebus H.

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        Presumably he was upset about the HSE providing free advertising for the "Shannon Doc Service"?
        New infraction avoidance policy: a post may be described as imbecilic, but its author should never be described as an imbecile.

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          GP's love to pass the buck, Irish people also love their GP's agreeing with them, they'll send you off A&E just for a second opinion, if it gets worse, rather than actually bother to deal with the patient themselves, they'll take their 50/60e fee first of course.

          What we actually should do is set a system of local triage clinics where people can go with the need ot going to their local and not so local A&E where the kid with the pain in the stomach is waiting in line with the RTA victim
          Nulla semper amicus, servivit mihi, in iniuriam mihi neminem quem non persolvi

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            I don' t think that is unique to Irish people (Bar the 50 quid charge anyway!). Most GP's these days seem to be rushed off their feet and prefer to tumble you somewhere else to the system rather than dealing with your issue (Or, importantly, lack thereof).

            I had to bring my young fella to A&E a few weeks ago, when I knew that there was nothing really wrong with him - but the GP insisted. So we took up 2 peoples time - initial triage by nurse and then a locum.

            The stock response will be "well don't bring them then" but I'm not medically trained. My doctor is. If he says go, I have to trust his judgement.

            I think triage nurses at GP surgeries, with limited prescription rights, would solve hell of of lot of issues.
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              Originally posted by B.A. View Post
              My gosh you're a ##mod edit##. Off to ignoreland.
              Major lives in a Socialist paradise in some sort of alternate universe. His postings are too funny to ignore.

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                Having been in a&e with kids post rugby im always amazed when with a suspected fracture you have to wait hours for the doc to give a quick look and say off to x ray for a further wait..i Could have told them it needed an x ray

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                  Originally posted by fitzy73 View Post
                  I don' t think that is unique to Irish people (Bar the 50 quid charge anyway!). Most GP's these days seem to be rushed off their feet and prefer to tumble you somewhere else to the system rather than dealing with your issue (Or, importantly, lack thereof).

                  I had to bring my young fella to A&E a few weeks ago, when I knew that there was nothing really wrong with him - but the GP insisted. So we took up 2 peoples time - initial triage by nurse and then a locum.

                  The stock response will be "well don't bring them then" but I'm not medically trained. My doctor is. If he says go, I have to trust his judgement.

                  I think triage nurses at GP surgeries, with limited prescription rights, would solve hell of of lot of issues.
                  Triage nurses with prescription rights! You commie! The Gp unions would never allow that!
                  Nulla semper amicus, servivit mihi, in iniuriam mihi neminem quem non persolvi

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                    from the Limerick Leader

                    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/lo...rick-1-6787928

                    Delays cause 11 ambulances to back up at University Hospital Limerick


                    • by Alan Owens

                    MANAGEMENT at University Hospital Limerick have apologised after an increase in patients attending the emergency department caused “long delays” and resulted in up to 11 ambulances being backed up outside the hospital.
                    The overcrowding came to a peak last Thursday night, when the ambulances were stacked up for three hours, a situation one hospital worker compared to as akin to the “runways at Heathrow”.
                    The delay was caused, the hospital worker - who did not wish to be identified - said because there was “simply too many people wanting to access the emergency department and not enough beds available”.
                    Patients referred to A&E faced lengthy delays as a result of the ambulances backing up outside the Dooradoyle facility.
                    It has also emerged that a 101 year old woman experienced a 25 hour wait on a trolley for a bed at UHL over the weekend.
                    A spokesperson for UHL conceded that there was “an increase in emergency presentations over the last week which has resulted in long delays for patients”.
                    “During particularly busy times on Thursday a number of ambulances experienced delays discharging patients to the care of UHL, however every effort was made to free up ambulances as a priority,” said the spokesperson.
                    “Our staff are working very hard to ensure the optimum care and safety of all our patients during this very busy period. The UL Hospital Group apologises that any patient has to wait to be admitted,” they added.
                    According to the INMO figures, there were 27 people on trollies in UHL last Thursday, dropping slightly to 24 the following day.
                    The 101 year old Clare woman experienced the 25 hour wait on a trolley for a bed over the weekend. She also faced a five hour wait for an ambulance to take her to the hospital where, because of delays at the emergency department, she faced the lengthy stint on a trolley.
                    The incident comes after health minister Leo Varadkar said there would be “zero tolerance” for a situation whereby anyone would wait longer than 24 hours on a trolley.
                    Mary Fogarty of the INMO said that particular incident was “inhumane and you wouldn’t see it in the Third World”.
                    “It is a catastrophic situation where the oldest person in the hospital is left to languish on a trolley for all of that time,” she said.
                    Ms Fogarty added: “At some point, when you don’t have enough beds, you have got to decide, who do I treat? Do I treat the patients that are on trolleys in the emergency department, or do I bring in people for planned care?
                    “And I think when you are at that stage in a hospital and are so overcrowded, and you have elderly people - a woman of 101 - and she is left there, for over a day, that is just unacceptable. Don’t tell me that there wasn’t some way that that lady could have been prioritised and given the care that she deserved.”
                    The UHL group said that as part of its plan to address the delays, all beds across the group are open and patients who have finished their care are being discharged home or to the community.
                    “Where possible patients are being transferred from UHL to Ennis Hospital, Nenagh Hospital and St John’s Hospital for ongoing treatment,” said the spokesperson.
                    The hospitals group reminded patients to keep the emergency department “for emergencies only and to contact their GP or GP Out of Hours services in the first instance”.
                    “GPs have a number of options available to them including referring patients to Medical Assessment Units which are operational in Ennis Hospital, Nenagh Hospital and St John’s Hospital, thus avoiding the patient having to wait for extended periods in the ED,” they said.
                    “Local Injury Units are open in Ennis and Nenagh Hospitals from 8am to 8pm, Monday to Sunday and 8am to 6pm Monday to Friday at St. John’s Hospital. Patients aged five years-plus with minor injuries; for example suspected broken bones in arm or lower leg, sprains, strains, minor scalds, burns or cuts are encouraged to visit their Local Injury Units for treatment,” added the spokesperson.
                    The UHL emergency department has been under severe pressure a number of times already this year, most notably in February, when elective surgery had to be cancelled as the hospital struggled to cope with an “unprecedented number” of presentations, a situation Fianna Fail’s Deputy Niall Collins described as “extremely serious” at the time.

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                      I'd love to know how many of these are real emergencies.

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                        “Local Injury Units are open in Ennis and Nenagh Hospitals from 8am to 8pm, so if your outside that time you go to Limerick and join the queue. Must remember to tell my kids they are only allowed to injure themselves between 8 am and 8 pm......
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                          Originally posted by Viigand View Post
                          I'd love to know how many of these are real emergencies.
                          What do consider an emergency? Broken leg, suspected appendix a doctor saying you need to take this person to A & E?
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                            Something that is life threatening.

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                              What doesn't help is the situation whereby doctors are afraid of carrying out certain minor tasks for fear of claims afterwards. You could go a long way to find a GP who's willing to stitch for example, if there is a scar (which cuts tends to have!) then there is a very real risk of a case. The litigious nature of this country really does not help.
                              Last edited by Grandpasimpson; 10-June-2015, 19:52.
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                                Yup that is definitely a factor unfortunately.

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