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    AB’s sacrificing size for speed?

    Hot ABs fuelled high on speed
    Michael Donaldson
    Tuesday, November 14, 2006





    So far on the All Blacks' demolition derby through Europe, the focus has been on the brilliant counter-attacking tactics that have led to stunning victories, 40-21 over England and now 47-3 over France in Lyon.


    But to make those high-octane tactics work you need high-octane players and as this tour goes on, it's obvious the All Blacks have taken their speed and endurance to new levels.


    Before the Lyon Test, Wayne Smith, commenting on centre Conrad Smith, said the Wellington man had been setting personal bests in speed training. Post-match Hurricanes hardman Jerry Collins admitted he, too, was a notch faster than he was a year ago.


    And now Leon MacDonald, coming up to 29 years old and with 42 tests behind him, has revealed his speed has gone up a click or two as well.


    Is this the All Blacks real secret? The abandonment of bulk and size in favour of speed and an ability to play the game at pace for 80 minutes?<BR clear=all>


    "We don't spend as much time in the gym as the northern hemisphere teams," MacDonald admitted.


    "We've got some naturally fast guys, but to play a high-tempo game for 80 minutes you've got to have fitness as well - it's about getting the balance right and the trainers are doing a pretty good job."


    Perhaps fearing he was about to give away too many trade secrets, MacDonald wasn't keen to elaborate, but it's obvious this team has not only reinvented the way the game is played tactically, they have also adapted their physiology to match. A look at Collins with his shirt off last week certainly reveals a lean, tapered physique.


    Any doubts? Just ask France coach Bernard Laporte, who said post-match: "The French players have worked well but the All Blacks are stronger. They run 100m in 10 seconds, us in 12 seconds. They are superior athletically."


    He may have been exaggerating a tad, but the the alliance of consistent high-end speed and near faultless execution of a perfect game plan was what delivered the heavenly seven-try exposition against France.


    "We did a lot of homework," MacDonald said, "the coaches did a great job in looking at the French and breaking them down. And in terms of going out there and implementing a game plan we did it perfectly. Right across the park it's a game we're pretty of proud of.


    "We strive for consistency and we got that last night for a longer period of time than in past tests. Instead of playing well for 40 or 50 minutes we nailed over 70 minutes of really good rugby and that's one of the things we're really proud of as well."


    With two excellent games in the bag, MacDonald said he wouldn't want to be part of the selection panel charged with picking the A-team for the next test in Paris.


    "The biggest problem for Graham Henry and the selectors is to nut out a top 15 ... I wouldn't want to be in his shoes at the moment."


    Whichever combination takes the field at Stade de France, the All Blacks would have to be wary of a French backlash, MacDonald said.


    "They'll be hurting, they're a proud rugby nation and the challenge for us is to first, not get complacent, and then to build on our performance."


    As for the long-term future, namely the world cup next year, MacDonald warned not to expect the All Blacks to be as far as ahead of the field in 10 months.


    "Teams can change a lot in the year - and it's probably a dangerous position to be in a year out. Everyone's looking at the way you play and they've got room to improve. The challenge for us is to keep improving from where we are."


    - Fairfax Media





    This story was found at: http://www.rugbyheaven.smh.com.au/ar...6/11/14/116326 6537215.html
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    #2
    Surely neither matters if you don't have the skills. That's what they've really taken to the next level, ability to do the basics at speed. (Also I notice no figures for how these guys have got quicker, just all saying they have). Anyway, the WC isn't for another year, so plenty of time for another exercise in peaking too early.

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      #3
      The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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        #4
        true dave.joe rokococo is over 15 stone,you'd hardy label him as slow though!
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          #5
          Didn't Joe recently suggest he was going to bulk up and drop speed
          slightly in order to build more power?

          Frankly I don't believe that they don't spend as much time in the gym
          as NH teams.
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            #6


            If they don't do as much in the gym it's because most of them are naturally more muscular anyway. Just look at the size of those lads, they're not exactly whippets are they?

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              #7
              We saw a bunch of the lads in Lyon munching away on all sorts of "junk food" on Friday evening, bags of lollies, pain au chocolade etc, they certainly didn't seem bothered about what their diet!
              Also walked past Graham Henry late friday night with some of the other coaching staff looking rather relaxed and taking in the town.
              The AB's seem to have changed their focus in the last year or so, hard to pinpoint but they are playing some exciting rugby right now. Fingers well and truly crossed for next year!

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                #8
                i presume they were practicing the french........ that'll impress the
                locals.... if not the complete demolition of their team didn't...
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                  Originally posted by Cathal
                  Didn't Joe recently suggest he was going to bulk up and drop speed
                  slightly in order to build more power?

                  Frankly I don't believe that they don't spend as much time in the gym
                  as NH teams.

                  perhaps,maybe its their natural build to be a bigger anyway.some people are naturally big,strong and fast.look at the tongans and fijians,their backs are all massive,but there still faster than their smaller NH counterparts.


                  i mean backs are probably faster now than they were 10-15 years ago,and are probably on average over a stone bigger.


                  weight training makes you faster,of course there is a tipping point when you put on so much bulk that you start going backwards.
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                    #10
                    They dont ahve to spend as much time in the gym, its all down to genetics, they have the right genes for size and power, we dont.

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                      Originally posted by gaga
                      They dont ahve to spend as much time in the gym, its all down to genetics, they have the right genes for size and power, we dont.

                      I don't agree with thtat at all. They are faster alright but stronger, wheres the evidence? South Africa are the biggest team and they're white.


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                        #12
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                          #13


                          Genes help the AB's alright, but they also focus on explosive power far more than European's. The English and French have been caught out just bulking up adding more raw muscle. If you look at some of our players when you meet them they don't look physically imposing, and a few years ago couldn't cope with the physicality of the southern hemisphere teams.


                          They haven't bulked up an awfullot as far as I can see, but the long pre season has allowed them focus on their technical fitness, just look at the power of D'arcy, Wally, Horgan etc.in contact. That's the big difference these long pre season camps bring, and give us a chance of bridging some of the physical and fitness gap wih the southern hemisphere teams.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Clon


                            Genes help the AB's alright, but they also focus on explosive power far more than European's. The English and French have been caught out just bulking up adding more raw muscle. If you look at some of our players when you meet them they don't look physically imposing, and a few years ago couldn't cope with the physicality of the southern hemisphere teams.


                            They haven't bulked up an awfullot as far as I can see, but the long pre season has allowed them focus on their technical fitness, just look at the power of D'arcy, Wally, Horgan etc.in contact. That's the big difference these long pre season camps bring, and give us a chance of bridging some of the physical and fitness gap wih the southern hemisphere teams.


                            Good point.


                            Where the all blacks have the advantage in genetics is on the wings. They get the pick of their own and the Pacific islanders.


                            EOStalked about power and strengthsome time back. He noted it. I'd say thats why Neil Best is on the team. He dosn't look much (I thought he was too skinny at first)but is better than he looks.


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                              South Africa are bigger because they have more playing numbers, like the English. As for New Zealand: I remember when Richie McCaw made his debut against ushe was a strong guy obviously, but nothing special for a international forward. Fast forward five or so years to the test in Dublin last year and he's a man-beast, miles ahead of the Irish players who he had played against on his debut. So, they make big physical gains on Irish players, but they spend less time on the weights? Hmmmm





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