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    Ulster back 3 better than Ireland's, discuss.

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      Originally posted by untilyouhearthatbell View Post
      Gilroy, Byrne, O'Loughlin, Conway, Sweetnam.
      None of them international standard in my opinion yet. Sweetnam the best of them
      I always knew Madigan was a closet Scrum Half. Ignore All things that suggest Continuity.

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        Originally posted by Cathalsmart View Post
        Because picking winger who can tackle has gone SOOOOOOOO well for us this 6N...
        Defence wins championships that's been proven over the years. Three players missed George North . Gilroy and Healy not an improvement either in my view.
        Best young winger I've seen this year is Sweetnam. Carries the ball in both hands, great hands, feet and fast. Adam Byrne next. Don't see star quality in any of the others
        I always knew Madigan was a closet Scrum Half. Ignore All things that suggest Continuity.

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          Originally posted by Jackie Brown View Post
          Ulster back 3 better than Ireland's, discuss.

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          Zebre
          I always knew Madigan was a closet Scrum Half. Ignore All things that suggest Continuity.

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            Originally posted by The Outlaw View Post
            Zebre
            Doesn't matter, Payne Charlie Gilroy trump's Kearney Earls Zebo

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              Originally posted by The Outlaw View Post
              None of them international standard in my opinion yet. Sweetnam the best of them
              Conway is a fine Rugby player and plays Joeball to a tee, Sweetnam is a fine athlete but should be nowhere near a cap yet.

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                Originally posted by bazzyg View Post
                Conway is a fine Rugby player and plays Joeball to a tee, Sweetnam is a fine athlete but should be nowhere near a cap yet.
                Conway too small for Joe, he likes big lumbering no noncesense plodding
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                  Originally posted by Jackie Brown View Post
                  Doesn't matter, Payne Charlie Gilroy trump's Kearney Earls Zebo

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                  When did Charlie become eligible for Ireland?


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                    Originally posted by bazzyg View Post
                    Conway is a fine Rugby player and plays Joeball to a tee, Sweetnam is a fine athlete but should be nowhere near a cap yet.
                    Conway is a good player but he's not star quality, Maybe I'll be wrong but Sweetnam looks a future star to me. Carries the ball in both hands naturally. Great skill to have
                    I always knew Madigan was a closet Scrum Half. Ignore All things that suggest Continuity.

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                      Originally posted by the plastic paddy View Post
                      When did Charlie become eligible for Ireland?


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                      Who said he was?

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                        Originally posted by Jackie Brown View Post
                        Who said he was?

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                        I just don't see the relevance of the initial comment. Is Charlie Piatau a better player than Zebo or Earls? Quite possibly but that has the square root of feck all to do with a thread about Wales V Ireland. Should Gilroy be starting ahead of Earls/ Zebo is relevant, should Payne be ahead of Kearney is relevant. I would answer no to the former and yes to the latter btw. Gilroy should be on the bench because he offers something different, but JS wouldn't send him on until the game is lost anyway so it wouldn't make any difference.


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                          Originally posted by Cowboy View Post
                          Conway too small for Joe, he likes big lumbering no noncesense plodding
                          D Kearney
                          \"Only Pienaar, Botha and Ferris would be in contention for a place on our first 15. That\'s a fact.\" - Tickettout\'s take on Ulster April 2011.

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                            He is, Gilroy is their equal, Payne is a mile ahead of Kearney.


                            Sad we can play a back 3 at a province that is better than the international 3 on the same weekend.

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                              Originally posted by Jackie Brown View Post
                              He is, Gilroy is their equal, Payne is a mile ahead of Kearney.


                              Sad we can play a back 3 at a province that is better than the international 3 on the same weekend.

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                              But one of them is NIQ and another of them is only a couple of games back from injury. I like Gilroy and think he should be in the 23. Maybe Payne to 13, Zebo to 15 and Gilroy to the wing but pigs will fly in a frozen over corner of hell before we see that.


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                                Originally posted by jagawayagain View Post
                                I dismissed the pre-match anti-Barnes stuff on here, but the yellow card, and none minutes before for three penalties in the red zone was sickening. Disallowing the mauled try was - in hindsight- plausible, but in the heat of the moment, and not taking a review suggests a preparedness to see one particular outcome. We needed to be better to win tonight, and we weren't. Marginal calls always cost unless you dominate.
                                Sickening?? Ah here. Disallowing that try was completely plausible and not checking it shows a good referee. Knew he and his team were correct in what they saw and in how they acted at the incident occured. There was no doubt so no need to check the TMO.

                                Originally posted by Spiffy View Post
                                Just a word for Marmion. He delivered the ball quickly and accurately, tried the odd snipe and tackled well. He is not a bad SH at all, and should really be getting more game time to bring him up to international speed. Murry is superb, but Ireland cannot rely on his being fit all the time.
                                He isnt bad at all. He needs to start more tests or at least get 10-15 minutes in more games. Murray is world class but doesnt need to play 70-75+ every game.

                                Originally posted by garryowen2323 View Post
                                1/3 in South Africa against the worst performing Springboks team I can remember
                                First ever test win ever down there counts for something though

                                Originally posted by The Last Stand View Post
                                Did Kidney even have two seasons as bad as this? I expect we will lose against England next week - he got two six nations titles on the back of the team that Kidney built - then likely to get 2/5 two years running.
                                Ah that isnt really true at all. Look at downward spiral of DK results after the first 2 seasons...

                                Originally posted by Daithi View Post
                                Id really like to see Ireland bring on the youth versus England. Why not hey!? Is a game of nothing now, we might as well try to salvage some value f from it.

                                I know it won't happen but I'd love to see most of the guys north of 30 omitted from the squad for the up &coming e.g. guys like TOH, Jackson, Marmion, Ieavy. POM, Ryan &Scannell getting a go. My bet is they'd do as well or better than the guys they're replacing and at least it would show the squad that this coach can pick new players when the tried, tested and obviously tired are pretty crap.
                                Why though? Winning is most important. Those north of 30 being omitted is waste of time. Up and coming guys if cant make team for a game like this will get game time in June in Japan.

                                Originally posted by Talking Sense View Post
                                Henshaw is a great player but I don't like him hugely at 12, he's not the best distributor and perhaps he's better off at 13. For me Payne should start ahead of Kearney so I'd probably go with Zebo and earls on the wings still. Either that or Payne to 13 move Zebo to full back with ringrose on the wing. We have plenty of good wing options with Conway Byrne sweetnam TOH.

                                I think we d do better with someone like Carberry Marshall olding at 12
                                Because he isnt really a 12. Always was 13 and then a 15. But Payne/Ringrose will be preferred at 13 always under schmidt. He becomes so much more limited as a 12 and cant show his full range of skills which is such a shame.

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