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    Irish Sevens?



    Does Ireland have any sevens team to speak of? And if so whose on and where are they selected from?


    Considering Wales and England had some of the worst backline play in the six nations and their clubs are not great runners of the ball either how come they're in the world top ten rankings for sevens circuitand Ireland can't get a look in

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    There doesn't appear to be a 7's team this year anyway .. and I'm not sure there was one last season either. Though I think there was one the season before that.


    Our 7's team when they did exist never entered the full set of 7's tournaments, and I'm pretty sure were pretty lowly on the rankings as well.


    It'd be great to see an irish team again .. maybe use the kids from the U20's with one or two old heads to keep them concentrated. Build on what the U20's achieved in the 6nations this season by giving the chance to develop further against international opposition.


    Wales & England have brought through some very good players using their 7's team to develop them, James Hook & David Strettle being 2 that spring to mind. And Matthew Tait had a couple of seasons at 7's to rebuild his confidence after his run-in with Henson on his senior debut.
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      #4
      The IRFU were looking to cut costs (such as ditching Connacht) a few years ago, so I doubt they could justify the expense of running a 7s team

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        #5
        This was all discussed on the site a while back..maybe some1 can find the link,or was that as far back as the old site?!
        Seas suas agus troid!

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          #6
          Originally posted by The Dave
          The IRFU were looking to cut costs (such as ditching
          Connacht) a few years ago, so I doubt they could justify the expense of
          running a 7s team




          Not really a valid arguement....the 7's circut has decent prize money
          on offer.....so if successful,it would finance itself...I think its
          more a case of where the players would come from....(who could afford
          to pay them if unsucessful/would it be taking players away from
          clubs/provinces etc..)

          Seas suas agus troid!

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            #7
            Wales doesn't have an A team though, i know they only played two games this year (CC excepted) but i'd prefer an A team to a Sevens team and it could be a choice between the two and that's before any HEC boycott by the English and French.

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              #8


              Cheers lads, was watching the under 19 match earlier and I thought that I heard the commentator say that a couple of the scottish lads had already played sevens so it would be a good breeding ground plus the lads would be well up to it considering they outplayed Scotland behind the scrum by far.


              On the point about taking players away from clubs wouldn't it be better for the likes of Mossie, Ross MaCarron, Keith Mattews, Keith Earls, Gary Browne and the likes to be playing on the sevens circuit in Hong Kongrather than playing some ten manAIL matches in the wind and rain and mud where thaey get three touches of the ball and knock it on twice. I mean nothing against the AIL, Cons match the last day was as good a development for HUrley Gleseon NOONan etc as ya wantr but at times weather conditions and some coaches ethos' can hinder backs developments.

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                #9


                Good points the HMC, I'd love to see the likes of Earls, Mossy, Browne, Ronanand others playing 7s.

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                  #10


                  <DIV =line>Ireland Sevens Squad Announced</DIV>
                  <DIV =date>13 July 2004, 8:40 am</DIV>
                  <DIV =abstract>Ireland has announced its squad to take part in the final tournament of the European Sevens Circuit in Mallorca, Spain on July 16th - 17th.</DIV>
                  <DIV =article>Ireland has announced its squad that will take part in the final tournament of the European Sevens Circuit in Mallorca, Spain on July 16th - 17th. The tournament will act as a qualifying competition for the Rugby World Cup Sevens Finals to be held in Hong Kong in March 2005. </DIV>
                  Ireland will be among sixteen teams competing for seven places in the 2005 finals and have been placed in Pool C with France, Germany and the Czech Republic.
                  The squad will be coached by experienced Sevens specialist Ryan Constable.
                  <DIV =article>Squad: James Downey (Clontarf/Connacht) Andy Dunne (NEC Harlequins) Ian Humphreys (Belfast Harlequins) Chris Keane (Buccaneers/Connacht) Neil McMillan (Ballymena/Ulster) Martin McPhail (U.L. Bohemians/Munster) Conor McPhillips (St. Mary's College/Connacht) John McWeeney (St. Mary's College/Leinster) Andrew Maxwell (Ballymena/Ulster) Michael McComish (Ballymena/Ulster) Coach: Ryan Constable</DIV>
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                  </DIV>
                  <DIV =article></DIV>
                  <DIV =article>Seems there was an Irish sevens team in 2005? Looks like a team of wingers and SHs! I'd love a sevens team. I think we could genuinely compete with a bit of input from the IRFU and it would be great to see some of the younger guys togging off, as has been said. </DIV>
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                  <DIV =article>It would also add a bit of interest to the sevens circuit on setanta. I love watching Samoa playing the British Virgin Islands or whoever, but I'd really follow an Irish team on it. Maybe setanta would be interested in sponsoring the team!</DIV>
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                    #11





                    IRB 7's Rugby website here - we don't even feature in the world standings. [img]smileys/sad.gif[/img]
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                      #12
                      Its a s**te b*****dised version of rugby that is worthless, we have the correcet attitude to it.

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                        #13


                        Originally posted by epaddy
                        Its a s**te b*****dised version of rugby that is worthless, we have the correcet attitude to it.




                        A tad ironic, seeing as Leinster consistently try to play a 15 man version of it! [img]smileys/cool.gif[/img]
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                          #14


                          Originally posted by epaddy
                          Its a s**te b*****dised version of rugby that is worthless, we have the correcet attitude to it.

                          Hmmmmm. Yes, it is a bast*rdised version of the full game, but it's hardly worthless. Any game that involves an oval ball and encourages passing, support and individual evasion skillshas some worth. Are you saying that it would be a negative thing to have fringe Irish backs and loose forwards, for example, running around on the sevens circuit rather than holding tacklebags at Camp Cooder?
                          You have to dare to lose to win, you have to dare to lose to win, you have to dare to lose to win. A winner hates to lose, but the winner is not afraid of losing. That\'s the difference, that\'s the difference.

                          - Prof. Willi Railo (sports psychologist)

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                            #15

                            Originally posted by An Fear Bolg

                            Originally posted by epaddy
                            Its a s**te b*****dised version of rugby that is worthless, we have the correcet attitude to it.

                            Hmmmmm. Yes, it is a bast*rdised version of the full game, but it's
                            hardly worthless. Any game that involves an oval ball and encourages
                            passing, support and individual evasion skillshas some worth. Are
                            you saying that it would be a negative thing to have fringe Irish backs
                            and loose forwards, for example, running around on the sevens circuit
                            rather than holding tacklebags at Camp Cooder?


                            At the detriment to bringing Irish players back to Connacht and generally increasing their budget, yes.

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