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    Irish Mens Sevens

    So the IRFU today issued an open invitation to all male athletes, from all sports, to see who could potentially make it as an elite Seven a side player.
    4 Talent ID days, similar to what took place for the Womens sevens side last year, will take place to test if players have the speed, power, endurance to play sevens

    IRFU hope to see the best rugby club players as well as attract athletes with transferable skills from other team sports such as athletics, basketball, hockey and Gaelic Games.

    The IRFU have entered a team in the Men's Rugby Europe Championship which takes place in June 2015, competing in Division C.

    The best athletes will be selected from these talent days and they will attend a sevens trial day from which an eventual squad of 20 players will be selected to prepare for the European Championships in June 2015."

    Those interested in attending the Talent Identification Days can sign up at www.irishrugby.ie/sevens.

    Closing date for applications is Friday, December 19.
    http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/33165.php#.VHz8t7hybMw

    Thoughts on this? About time. Will be interesting to see what kind of players will be at these talent days

    #2
    Could be tricky for Northern players at olympics
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    Originally Posted by mr chips
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      #3
      Thoughts on it? About 30 years to late for me.
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        #4
        Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
        Could be tricky for Northern players at olympics
        No it wont. Look at several other all island sports and there isn't issues there. Britain will have issues at Olympics considering Wales, England and Scotland all have full time sides and how do you decide what the British team will be.

        Originally posted by McCloud View Post
        Thoughts on it? About 30 years to late for me.
        Yeah. Hopefully we see changes in how 7s is viewed and ran here as a result. More senior, junior, underage 7s tournaments at start/end of season

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          Originally posted by ormond lad View Post
          No it wont. Look at several other all island sports and there isn't issues there. Britain will have issues at Olympics considering Wales, England and Scotland all have full time sides and how do you decide what the British team will be.

          Yeah. Hopefully we see changes in how 7s is viewed and ran here as a result. More senior, junior, underage 7s tournaments at start/end of season
          Perhaps you missed the furore over Rory (golf) ?

          And (some) Northern rowers are in the UK(GB & NI) team.
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          Originally Posted by mr chips
          AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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            #6
            At least we might have a use for Fionn Carr, Adeolokun, Ian Humpts, Macken, Gilroy, J.J, Dom Ryan, Conan, Doughal, Mick McGrath, Duncan Casey, Marshall and Doc 2.
            When their numbers dwindled from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect Hungry

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              #7
              Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
              Perhaps you missed the furore over Rory (golf) ?

              And (some) Northern rowers are in the UK(GB & NI) team.
              I didnt and rugby has always been all island and wont be too much of a problem. None of the Northern guys would make a british team considering theyd be going against guys who've played a lot of 7s in world series for Eng, Wal, Sco

              Originally posted by Benji View Post
              At least we might have a use for Fionn Carr, Adeolokun, Ian Humpts, Macken, Gilroy, J.J, Dom Ryan, Conan, Doughal, Mick McGrath, Duncan Casey, Marshall and Doc 2.
              But seriously who will we have playing as the side wont totally be made up of the talent id players?

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                Originally posted by ormond lad View Post
                I didnt and rugby has always been all island and wont be too much of a problem. None of the Northern guys would make a british team considering theyd be going against guys who've played a lot of 7s in world series for Eng, Wal, Sco

                But seriously who will we have playing as the side wont totally be made up of the talent id players?

                Golf is an All Island sport as well.

                ...and to suggest that none of the Northern guys would get into a British team is really a bit of (negative) speculation - there could be outstanding prospects from any where in Ireland - and hopefully some will be uncovered as this (somewhat overdue) plan for 7s develops.
                Last edited by AdolphusGrigson; 2nd-December-2014, 13:16.
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                Originally Posted by mr chips
                AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
                  Golf is an All Island sport as well.

                  ...and to suggest that none of the Northern guys would get into a British team is really a bit of (negative) speculation - there could be outstanding prospects from any where in Ireland - and hopefully some will be uncovered as this (somewhat overdue) plan for 7s develops.
                  The Rory thing was hardly a furore. There was a bit of press speculation but once he made his decision very little more was said about it.

                  Some Northern Irish lads will shoot for team Ireland whilst others will shoot for team GB, nobody will give a ****e either way. Except you, possibly.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Munsterboy View Post
                    The Rory thing was hardly a furore. There was a bit of press speculation but once he made his decision very little more was said about it.

                    Some Northern Irish lads will shoot for team Ireland whilst others will shoot for team GB, nobody will give a ****e either way. Except you, possibly.
                    I think it fair to say my initial observation that it

                    'Could be tricky for Northern players at olympics'

                    is a mild and reasonable observation. Pretending there is no potential issue or that it wasn't an issue for Rory McIlroy (leaving aside the negative stuff) is a bit silly. Rory's decision was headline news in the British and Irish press - perhaps you missed that?
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                    Originally Posted by mr chips
                    AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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                      Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
                      Golf is an All Island sport as well.

                      ...and to suggest that none of the Northern guys would get into a British team is really a bit of (negative) speculation - there could be outstanding prospects from any where in Ireland - and hopefully some will be uncovered as this (somewhat overdue) plan for 7s develops.
                      I don't see like that. None of the Northern guys would. They'd be competing against guys who are playing 7s full time and have been for quite some time.

                      If 7s is to really take off there needs to be more organised tournaments at age grade club and schools, club adult level and just more chances to play in 7s competitions than there is now

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                        Originally posted by ormond lad View Post
                        I don't see like that. None of the Northern guys would. They'd be competing against guys who are playing 7s full time and have been for quite some time.

                        If 7s is to really take off there needs to be more organised tournaments at age grade club and schools, club adult level and just more chances to play in 7s competitions than there is now
                        Neither of us, or the IRFU have any idea the composition of the future Irish team in the Olympics, and they are throwing their net wide - whether a great talent comes out of Northern Ireland is any ones guess - whether such a player may want to play for GB or Ireland and or is good enough is also anybody's guess. What we can say with certainty is that it is an anomalous situation which has affected another All Ireland sport (Golf) and could be tricky for a rugby player - as it was for Rory.

                        I really cant see how that is difficult to grasp or controversial to comment on.
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                        Originally Posted by mr chips
                        AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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                          #13
                          I think most guys will come from a rugby background,7s is evolving all the time the game has increased in physicality and the breakdown is being contested in a serious manner,the Irfu should liaise with the AIL coaches so they could recommend suitable players of which there are many ...the main problem GAA ,sprinters etc will encounter are the tackle and full contact nature of the game...Carlin Isles still can't tackle a paper bag....

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                            Originally posted by AdolphusGrigson View Post
                            Neither of us, or the IRFU have any idea the composition of the future Irish team in the Olympics, and they are throwing their net wide - whether a great talent comes out of Northern Ireland is any ones guess - whether such a player may want to play for GB or Ireland and or is good enough is also anybody's guess. What we can say with certainty is that it is an anomalous situation which has affected another All Ireland sport (Golf) and could be tricky for a rugby player - as it was for Rory.

                            I really cant see how that is difficult to grasp or controversial to comment on.
                            Golf and situation with McIlroy was very different. He already was competing at the top level. There hasn't been an Irish side compete in 7s before bar a few 7s world cups years ago.
                            Where are the players from NI already competing at top level of 7s? There wont be any issues with rugby players choosing GB or Ire as
                            England, Wales, Scotland will all have to try qualify for the Olympics and it then depends on how many qualify and the British Olympic Committee then decides how the team is made up
                            Some from Ulster may want to play for GB but the likelihood of them making a GB side is so small that it wont be an issue
                            Originally posted by greenback View Post
                            I think most guys will come from a rugby background,7s is evolving all the time the game has increased in physicality and the breakdown is being contested in a serious manner,the Irfu should liaise with the AIL coaches so they could recommend suitable players of which there are many ...the main problem GAA ,sprinters etc will encounter are the tackle and full contact nature of the game...Carlin Isles still can't tackle a paper bag....
                            Of course they will. Don't think IRFU need to liaise with club coaches. They'll get a sufficient number at these screening sessions to work with
                            GAA players will have much fewer issues with tackle than track Sprinters. Will be interesting what other sporting backgrounds people at these screening days will have.

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                              re. "Some from Ulster may want to play for GB but the likelihood of them making a GB side is so small that it wont be an issue"

                              That sentence is not logical - you cant have a small '
                              likelihood' and then say it 'wont' be an issue.

                              My original statement - "
                              Could be tricky for Northern players at olympics" is clearly logical.

                              And I presume like me you will be hoping that outstanding player(s) Ulster players that are better than their counterparts in 'GB' will emerge before the olympics???

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                              Originally Posted by mr chips
                              AG gets the responses he does because he is a journalist..

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