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    Originally posted by barleys chinos View Post
    Hypothetically speaking how do ye think an international captain would react if his coach told him the team on a Tuesday for a Saturday game.
    Hypothetically of coarse
    This team included 2 of his fellow club mates just for pig iron say a 2nd row and a back row.
    But and here's the catch on thursday night at the team announcement these 2 players he was told were in the team and he told were in the were not.
    That's not a nice to treat a championship winning captain
    That's a fact.
    If this is true, at a minimum it would cause a major loss of trust between captain and coach, between the two players in question and the coaching regime, and also potentially between the two players and the captain. Of course, it would also undermine the relationship between all the club teammates of the two players who may be in contention for international places and the international coach and management.

    Not good, not good at all. If it's true, I'D worry for the coaches credibility as a selector.

    P.s. it is the coaches job to inform players they are in a team, a, captain would rarely get involved.
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      Welcome David Nucifora, I personally think this may be a henchman appointment to shove players around the Island but hope to be proved wrong. His reputation precedes him both in coaching(which this role doesnt involve it would seem) and being a prickly pear

      THE IRFU’S NEW Performance Director, David Nucifora, believes the Irish national team should be aiming for the pinnacle of international rugby.

      Speaking at his introduction to the media at the Aviva Stadium this afternoon, the Australian outlined the “wide-ranging” duties his newly-created position will involve, before stressing that Ireland must target the very highest honours.

      “I think you don’t want to limit yourself at all,” says the 52-year-old. “We’ll talk about being world-class. You have to aim to the highest level; everything is achievable. Winning World Cups is achievable.

      “You have to think like that. If you don’t think like that, you may as well pack it in. I think it’s important that we create that sense of belief.”

      The two-times capped former Wallaby hooker did point out his sense that the process of instilling a deeply-rooted Irish confidence has already begun under head coach Joe Schmidt, his former assistant at the Auckland Blues.
      Watching from afar, I think one thing that Joe did really well with the group [this season] is that he gave them a sense of belief. When they were in tight spots, they believed in what they were doing.
      “That’s what you’ve got to have to be successful, you’ve got to have that belief.”
      So what role will Nucifora play in the progress of the Irish team? IRFU chief executive Philip Browne revealed that this appointment originally “stemmed from the Rugby World Cup review in 2011,” when it was identified that a “fully-integrated approach” was needed in the professional game on these shores.
      Having extensively consulted the provincial and national team management and players, the IRFU created the role that Nucifora will occupy for the next five years, as per his agreed contract.

      The 2004 Super Rugby champion outlined that he feels “very honoured and privileged” to have been entrusted with the job, before explaining what duties he will perform for the IRFU.
      “It is a very wide-ranging role. It encompasses working not only with the national team, but very closely with all the provincial teams on the development pathway, making sure that we have the most efficient and productive pathway within Ireland.
      “Our aim is to keep producing players of a world-class level to ensure that the national team has the ability to choose from a really strong pool of players. The role also looks after all of the underage teams, the age grade teams that exist off the development path in the men’s, women’s and sevens game.”

      A possible increase in the movement of Irish players between provinces is the topic du jour at present, and while Nucifora has no clearly defined thoughts on whether the likes of Jared Payne and Robbie Henshaw may begin that process, he does believe that young Irish players need the best possible chance of playing senior games.

      I probably don’t have a view, straight up, on the movement of players between provinces. I think that players getting exposure to the highest level that they’re capable of, or ready for, is important.


      “I don’t think that players sitting on the sideline in tracksuits benefits anyone. That’s an important part of development. Also, players want to play. We’ll be working on a system where we don’t want players warehoused in one particular spot.
      “If it’s in their best interests, and the teams’ best interests, the national body’s best interests, then hopefully we can get them playing.”


      Finally, who’s the boss? Joe Schmidt is clearly the man trusted by the IRFU and the general rugby population to lead the national team forward on the pitch, but will he be reporting to Nucifora?

      That was the situation when Schmidt was an assistant to Nucifora at the Blues, but the ex-Queensland front row states that the relationship will now be on a more equal footing, as the pair look to “get good alignment” between the four provinces and the Ireland set-up.


      “Ultimately, I’m responsible for Joe’s role, I suppose, and their performance, but having worked with him before, I see it going forward as something that we’ll be working very closely together.”

      http://www.thescore.ie/ireland-david-nucifora-irfu-ambiiton-1420169-Apr2014/



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        No stockpiling? So which of Leinsters props are going where?

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          Welcome and all that but how is it that he gets a 5 year contract and the provincial coaches only get 2 years + option of 1year extension?
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            Originally posted by FORWARD.... View Post
            Welcome and all that but how is it that he gets a 5 year contract and the provincial coaches only get 2 years + option of 1year extension?
            I guess to provide him security so he'll take a long-term approach?

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              Good to see Nucifora signing. He spoke about getting the provinces to run more efficiently. If he can manage that then it'll be money well spent.


              At the moment there seems to be big barriers for players joining other provinces. They'd rather sit on the sidelines for years than join another province. You have young Kiwis joining Connacht from the far side of the world but yet players in other provinces don't want to go a few hours away from home. Nucifora will look to change that attitude in Irish rugby, and rightly so. I'd say he'll put pressure on more young players to leave to get game time.

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                I don't know if there's a barrier on players changing provinces but certainly I think it takes a certain type of player to voluntarily move himself out of the fringes at a winning team to join a side who are really up against it, and some players are just better off developing on the fringes.

                As for Nucifora, he certainly doesn't have a great reputation in Australia, having come into conflict with people in a similar role at the ARU, and his management of the Brumbies ended as he was basically voted out by the players (before moving to the Blues, where he met Schmidt). I'm hoping Joe has made a clever decision and hasn't brought in somebody who will increase division. There are some good links here: http://harpin2.blogspot.ie/2013/11/w...-nucifora.html

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                  Originally posted by dropkick View Post
                  Good to see Nucifora signing. He spoke about getting the provinces to run more efficiently. If he can manage that then it'll be money well spent.


                  At the moment there seems to be big barriers for players joining other provinces. They'd rather sit on the sidelines for years than join another province. You have young Kiwis joining Connacht from the far side of the world but yet players in other provinces don't want to go a few hours away from home. Nucifora will look to change that attitude in Irish rugby, and rightly so. I'd say he'll put pressure on more young players to leave to get game time.
                  There are drawbacks to that as well. Whatever about moving to another province, you don't want players to be moving to other countries for a) the money or b) to play international rugby like the young kiwis. The Irish provinces rely very heavily on provincial loyalties to keep them here in Ireland.

                  Take Ian Keatley for example, who is unlikely to get too many Ireland caps, whats to keep him playing in Ireland when a team like London Irish would pay him big bucks to go play for them? What if Donnacha Ryan had moved to Leinster when Cheika offered him a deal? I know I'd be very unhappy about it now.

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                    Originally posted by jeepers View Post
                    There are drawbacks to that as well. Whatever about moving to another province, you don't want players to be moving to other countries for a) the money or b) to play international rugby like the young kiwis. The Irish provinces rely very heavily on provincial loyalties to keep them here in Ireland.

                    Take Ian Keatley for example, who is unlikely to get too many Ireland caps, whats to keep him playing in Ireland when a team like London Irish would pay him big bucks to go play for them? What if Donnacha Ryan had moved to Leinster when Cheika offered him a deal? I know I'd be very unhappy about it now.
                    Fla and Sean Cronin are two examples of it succeeding though
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                      Originally posted by jeepers View Post
                      There are drawbacks to that as well. Whatever about moving to another province, you don't want players to be moving to other countries for a) the money or b) to play international rugby like the young kiwis. The Irish provinces rely very heavily on provincial loyalties to keep them here in Ireland.

                      Take Ian Keatley for example, who is unlikely to get too many Ireland caps, whats to keep him playing in Ireland when a team like London Irish would pay him big bucks to go play for them? What if Donnacha Ryan had moved to Leinster when Cheika offered him a deal? I know I'd be very unhappy about it now.
                      I don't think the Leinster/Munster divide will be coming down any time soon. I think if you asked Mike Ross or Eoin Reddan, they'd have rather gone back to Limerick when they returned to Ireland rather than Leinster. There doesn't seem to be the same divide between Ulster and the two provinces though.

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                        Originally posted by whimpersnap View Post
                        I don't think the Leinster/Munster divide will be coming down any time soon. I think if you asked Mike Ross or Eoin Reddan, they'd have rather gone back to Limerick when they returned to Ireland rather than Leinster. There doesn't seem to be the same divide between Ulster and the two provinces though.
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                          Originally posted by Cowboy View Post
                          A Cold War.
                          Except it would take somebody with a bit more substance than Reagan to break down that wall :p

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                            Originally posted by Cowboy View Post
                            Fla and Sean Cronin are two examples of it succeeding though
                            Fla said recently that he was offered a contract by Leinster and turned it down. Said he would never play for Leinster. Not sure it has worked out for Cronin. He missed out on being first choice with Munster a lot sooner when Fla started having his injury problems. Cronin would have been undisputed first choice for Munster over the last few years (ahead of Varley in the pecking order).

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                              Originally posted by jeepers View Post
                              Fla said recently that he was offered a contract by Leinster and turned it down. Said he would never play for Leinster. Not sure it has worked out for Cronin. He missed out on being first choice with Munster a lot sooner when Fla started having his injury problems. Cronin would have been undisputed first choice for Munster over the last few years (ahead of Varley in the pecking order).
                              Yeah but Cronin left when Denis Fogarty was looking like he was on his way to becoming an international. When he signed for Leinster, Flannery looked like he had five more years in him and Varley had the reserve spot signed up. I've no doubt Cronin would have loved to play for Munster, but the timing screwed him over both times.
                              Last edited by whimpersnap; 17-April-2014, 23:31.

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                                Cronin is an impact sub rarely puts in a good 80 mins then again rarely gets the chance.
                                Cronin is a fine player with a pack dominating but when it comes to the grind id have varley anytime.
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