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    We Won and Retained The Triple Crown


    Just in case anyone forgot

    #2
    Crack open the champagne and lets take the girls for a spin round the dance floor.



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      #3
      Don't for a second think that Cooder will let us forget!!!
      Hello friends in Brussels. Baldy here

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        #4


        Originally posted by epaddy
        Just in case anyone forgot

        get a grip on yourself
        Frank the Tank is not coming back. OK? That part of me is over, water under the bridge.

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          #5

          Originally posted by Harry

          Originally posted by epaddy
          Just in case anyone forgot

          get a grip on yourself
          My God....not on form tonight are we Harry? Wife let you out for the first time in few years did she? Jaysus, lightent up man. Its a f**king internet forum. A pastime. A bit of light entertainment. Whats your problem?

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            #6
            <H1>New trophies are simply Triple trash </H1>



            @@@@SPAN =storyby>By Paul Ackford, Sunday Telegraph@@@@/SPAN>

            This might come as a surprise to you, but Ireland won the Century Quaich yesterday as well as the Triple Crown. It came as a surprise to me, too, because until I leafed through the match programme I hadn't heard of the Century Quaich, which is a trophy up for grabs when Scotland play Ireland these days.
            I had heard of the Cook Cup (England v Australia), the Bledisloe Cup (New Zealand v Australia), the Nelson Mandela Challenge Plate (Australia v South Africa), the Calcutta Cup (England v Scotland), but that's about the lot.
            The Tom Richards Trophy (Lions v the Wallabies, named after a bloke who played for both sides), the Dave Gallagher Trophy (France v the All Blacks), the Hopetoun Cup (Australia v Scotland; don't ask, I haven't a clue) and the Freedom Cup (Springboks v the All Blacks) don't ring any bells whatsoever.
            What is this obsession with meaningless trophies that do nothing to elevate contests? Most of the above have been commissioned recently. There is no tradition, no resonance with them. Most have, at best, a tenuous connection with the contest they are supposed to enrich. They mean nothing to the players - "Look mummy, I've won the Hopetoun Cup today" - and are relevant only to the marketing departments who attempt to use them as a promotional vehicle.
            At least the Triple Crown has history and substance. Well, it has now. Until last year when a silver plate was designed and made and named the Triple Crown, it was a phrase only. But its importance can be determined by how angry Celtic journalists have become at English suggestions that Ireland, who have won it three years out of four, should not relish the winning of it.
            I'm for doing away with the Triple Crown altogether because it is increasingly anachronistic. It now exists in a tournament, the Six Nations, in which two of the teams, France and Italy, are excluded from securing it. What is the point of a competition within a competition which is not open to all? Moreover, the Triple Crown justifies mediocrity. It's a bit like the old England-Scotland and England-Wales encounters. Win one and it confirms the season for those two nations. The Triple Crown is just an extension of that nationalistic nonsense.
            I doubt whether the Irish players could give a monkey's about winning their Triple Crown yesterday unless their bonuses were predicated on doing so. They had their sights set on bigger prizes and good on them for that. A Triple Crown for Ireland is relative failure given their talent and their experience. They might not have been caught up in the business of winning it but the very fact that there was a ceremony attached to getting it perpetuates the notion that it is important. It's not. It limits ambition and any self-respecting team should ignore it.
            There is a true story concerning the Freedom Cup (Springboks v the All Blacks, remember?). In 2006 New Zealand played South Africa three times in the Tri-Nations. New Zealand beat South Africa two to one but South Africa won the final game in the series when the trophy was present. Joost van der Westhuizen, the former Springbok scrum-half working for TV, was asked to present the Cup and promptly handed it straight to Springbok captain John Smit because Westhuizen thought it was decided on a game-by-game basis. Those weren't the rules. New Zealand should have got it.
            That's the thing about trophies. Some of them are meaningless. Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention the Millennium Trophy (England v Ireland) and the Lansdowne Cup (Ireland v Australia). I'm sure there are more out there but I'm losing the will to live.
            New infraction avoidance policy: a post may be described as imbecilic, but its author should never be described as an imbecile.

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              #7
              Unfortunatley for Paul 1984 Ackford you can't do away with an idea/
              concept and that is what the Triple Crown was/is. Perhaps we didn't
              need a big plate but then we didn't need a cup for the 6 Nations (what's
              wrong with sharing the Championship - they don't play home and away
              so its not a level league anyway). Think England would be pretty
              pleased with a Triple Crown right now !!
              By doing away with the Triple Crown Ackford merely underpins that
              which he then says he despises - commercialism etc etc
              He's usually more on the ball but have noticed himlosing it for a while
              now - perhaps like dogs every pundit has his day (and then becomes
              increasingly more up his/her own arse).

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                #8
                Who cares?
                Commemorate Nevin Spence here -
                http://www.mycharity.ie/event/munste..._nevin_spence/

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                  #9


                  Originally posted by epaddy
                  Just in case anyone forgot

                  And left the grand slam behind....
                  Excellence is hard to keep quite - Sherrie Coale

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                    #10

                    Originally posted by Old Dog
                    <h1>New trophies are simply Triple trash </h1>



                    @@@@SPAN>By Paul Ackford, Sunday Telegraph@@@@/SPAN>



                    This might come as a surprise to you, but Ireland won the Century Quaich yesterday as well as the Triple Crown. It came as a surprise to me, too, because until I leafed through the match programme I hadn't heard of the Century Quaich, which is a trophy up for grabs when Scotland play Ireland these days.


                    I had heard of the Cook Cup (England v Australia), the Bledisloe Cup (New Zealand v Australia), the Nelson Mandela Challenge Plate (Australia v South Africa), the Calcutta Cup (England v Scotland), but that's about the lot.


                    The Tom Richards Trophy (Lions v the Wallabies, named after a bloke who played for both sides), the Dave Gallagher Trophy (France v the All Blacks), the Hopetoun Cup (Australia v Scotland; don't ask, I haven't a clue) and the Freedom Cup (Springboks v the All Blacks) don't ring any bells whatsoever.


                    What is this obsession with meaningless trophies that do nothing to elevate contests? Most of the above have been commissioned recently. There is no tradition, no resonance with them. Most have, at best, a tenuous connection with the contest they are supposed to enrich. They mean nothing to the players - "Look mummy, I've won the Hopetoun Cup today" - and are relevant only to the marketing departments who attempt to use them as a promotional vehicle.


                    At least the Triple Crown has history and substance. Well, it has now. Until last year when a silver plate was designed and made and named the Triple Crown, it was a phrase only. But its importance can be determined by how angry Celtic journalists have become at English suggestions that Ireland, who have won it three years out of four, should not relish the winning of it.


                    I'm for doing away with the Triple Crown altogether because it is increasingly anachronistic. It now exists in a tournament, the Six Nations, in which two of the teams, France and Italy, are excluded from securing it. What is the point of a competition within a competition which is not open to all? Moreover, the Triple Crown justifies mediocrity. It's a bit like the old England-Scotland and England-Wales encounters. Win one and it confirms the season for those two nations. The Triple Crown is just an extension of that nationalistic nonsense.


                    I doubt whether the Irish players could give a monkey's about winning their Triple Crown yesterday unless their bonuses were predicated on doing so. They had their sights set on bigger prizes and good on them for that. A Triple Crown for Ireland is relative failure given their talent and their experience. They might not have been caught up in the business of winning it but the very fact that there was a ceremony attached to getting it perpetuates the notion that it is important. It's not. It limits ambition and any self-respecting team should ignore it.


                    There is a true story concerning the Freedom Cup (Springboks v the All Blacks, remember?). In 2006 New Zealand played South Africa three times in the Tri-Nations. New Zealand beat South Africa two to one but South Africa won the final game in the series when the trophy was present. Joost van der Westhuizen, the former Springbok scrum-half working for TV, was asked to present the Cup and promptly handed it straight to Springbok captain John Smit because Westhuizen thought it was decided on a game-by-game basis. Those weren't the rules. New Zealand should have got it.


                    That's the thing about trophies. Some of them are meaningless. Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention the Millennium Trophy (England v Ireland) and the Lansdowne Cup (Ireland v Australia). I'm sure there are more out there but I'm losing the will to live.

                    not that anyone cares, but as it is an online forum, i'd like to agree with this...... even if we were as bad as England right now... and winning the triple crown was some
                    He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.

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                      #11

                      Originally posted by i_like_cake
                      Originally posted by Old Dog
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                      not that anyone cares, but as it is an online forum, i'd like to agree with this...... even if we were as bad as England right now... and winning the triple crown was something huge to be happy about , it is still meaningless in the grand scheme of things, assuming we have a grand scheme... all or nothing people, all or nothing..
                      (This would be a bad spot to talk about Ulster winning the Heineken cup, right?)
                      But Ulster never won the @@@@SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Heineken@@@@/SPAN> Cup?

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                        #12

                        Originally posted by RobbieG
                        Originally posted by i_like_cake

                        (This would be a bad spot to talk about Ulster winning the Heineken cup, right?)
                        But Ulster never won the @@@@SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Heineken@@@@/SPAN> Cup?
                        [img]smileys/lol.gif[/img][img]smileys/lol.gif[/img] dammit man, you got me..!
                        He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical lame duck either, but a real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from stepping on a land mine or something.

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                          #13
                          Ulster fans have been waiting 7 long years for a new ERC title sponsor

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                            #14
                            How times have changed - a few years ago we would be celebrating for a week after winning a triple crown... Great that Irish rugby now expects more

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                              #15
                              Pity the coach doesn't though.
                              Hello friends in Brussels. Baldy here

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