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  • trixie
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    [QUOTE=mrstambourineman] scarred?

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  • Munsterboy
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    Jesus, another article about ROG "costing" the Lions the test and blah blah blah.

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  • Hugonaut
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    ‘You don’t need words of comfort. What happened couldn’t be changed.
    <s&#111;ng>I’m mentally tough</s&#111;ng>, but it still goes down in the history books.’

    Jesus. Another interview where O'Gara proclaims his mental toughness.
    We get it.

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  • mrstambourineman
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    Time well spent[img]smileys/redface.gif[/img]

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  • LimerickLad
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    It must have taken ages to do all those [img]smileys/lol.gif[/img]s

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  • flsghujslkuo
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    ROG seeking-absolution</span></font>

    It was one of those moments
    that all sportsmen dread – the sort that makes you wish the earth would
    open under your feet. For Ronan O’Gara it meant that he went from
    Ireland Grand Slam hero to Lions zero overnight, and that a hard-earned
    reputation as one of the best flyhalves and tacticians in the game was
    damaged, perhaps irreparably. And, he admits, there has not been a day
    since when he has not thought of it.

    If you were looking for a safe pair of hands, with the Lions in
    possession in their own 22, and the second Test locked at 25-25 after a
    dramatic Springbok comeback with less than a minute to go, then most of
    the red-shirted fans at Loftus would have put what remained of their
    credit-crunched savings on the Irishman – who had come on to relieve
    Jamie Roberts 12 minutes earlier – to have his game-head screwed on and
    kick the ball into the middle of Pretoria.

    After all, this was O’Gara, the arch controller who had helped put
    Irish rugby back on the map, going into the tour having kicked a
    last-gasp drop goal against Wales in Cardiff to secure Ireland’s first
    Five/Six Nations Grand Slam for 61 years. The same O’Gara who had a
    treasure trove of elite experience behind him, having not only won 92
    caps for his country but also scored 919 points in a decade in the
    green shirt, making him the fifth highest point-scorer in international
    rugby history, and the holder of almost every Irish point-scoring
    record. On top of that he had guided his beloved Munster to two
    European Cup titles, and established himself as the tournament’s
    top-scorer.

    If O’Gara’s response to Morné Steyn’s speculative kick had been a
    half decent touchline clearance, the Lions would almost certainly have
    gone to Johannesburg for the final Test with the series still alive,
    but instead he gambled – some would argue in the tradition of the great
    touring side – and launched an up-and-under. However, his kick-chase,
    rather than that of an opportunist going for glory, looked almost
    instantaneously like an act of desperation, and, rather than launch
    himself upwards for the ball like Fourie du Preez did, he appeared to
    sleepwalk into a collision with the Springbok scrumhalf.

    French referee Christophe Berdos awarded the penalty, and Steyn’s
    superb 53m kick put the bullet into the Lions in the last act of an
    epic match, clinching the series for the world champions and leaving
    O’Gara inconsolable after the final whistle. The flyhalf was in tears,
    staring into the middle distance, unwilling to talk to anyone.

    It has plagued him ever since, and he has only recently been
    prepared to talk about the moment his sporting world turned on its
    head.

    ‘That’s sport at the top level, but it’s a situation of huge
    regret and embarrassment, and it has caused me months of anger and
    regret. I was playing well on the tour, but my 10 minutes in the Test
    jersey was definitely not reflective of me,’ he tells SA Rugby
    magazine.

    However, even now that the dust has settled on the tour, O’Gara will not accept that it was a total lapse of judgement.

    ‘The big thing that annoyed me is that I took a really heavy blow
    to the head just before it, and I wasn’t thinking too clearly. I
    thought I went up to challenge for the ball, but the referee thought I
    had caught Fourie du Preez when he was in the air, and made his
    decision. But in relation to not kicking the ball out, no – I would
    still go for the win and put up the garryowen.’

    Paul O’Connell and O’Gara go back a long way for Munster and
    Ireland, so what was said between the Lions captain and his flyhalf
    friend in the aftermath of such a brutal disappointment, and the lapse
    of judgement by O’Gara that led to it?

    ‘Emotions were all over the place. Paul was hurting badly – we let
    a big lead slip when we could have killed the game – but he didn’t
    actually say anything to me. You don’t need w

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  • Fresh Start
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    Originally posted by nuke
    i love this cost them the game bulls**t. I
    know and dislike ROG but to say he cost them a test is as
    much rubbish now as it was then. They were not winning the
    test and were not going to win it
    Agreed - that test was lost when the 4 key players went off
    injured.

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  • mrstambourineman
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    scarred?

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  • nuke
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    i love this cost them the game bulls**t. I know and dislike ROG but to say he cost them a test is as much rubbish now as it was then. They were not winning the test and were not going to win it

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  • DONC
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    Originally posted by flsghujslkuo
    ROG SCARRED

    But what may be of concern is that De Villiers has had to deal with so many injured players leading up to Saturday's game against the Six Nations champions.

    It is expected there will be changes in both front and back rows because of injuries, while Adrian Jacobs is also nursing a sprained foot.
    It's hard to predict just what De Villiers will do in the next 24 hours or so before he names his lineup on Thursday.

    Does he take a gamble with a changed front row, with John Smit at hooker, in this must-win match - to top the year off on a high - or does he stick with the same front row which has served him well for the most part of 2009?

    And does he consider BJ Botha, who hasn't been part of the Boks for two years but showed in Italy just how valuable he can be in the scrums?

    Ireland have picked rookie flyhalf Jonny Sexton for the clash, coach Declan Kidney deciding to leave the highly experienced Ronan O'Gara on the bench. Is he scared O'Gara is scarred after the Lions tour to SA? It was he, after all, who cost the Lions victory at Loftus Versfeld.

    Remember, he was the guy Jaque Fourie ran over to score in the right corner in the dying minutes of the match and it was he who took Fourie du Preez out of the air, which led to Morne Steyn's wonderful last gasp penalty.

    Is O'Gara scarred? And if so, what about the other Irishmen who were part of the Lions tour?

    Soft penalty dont think ROG scarred by that at all.

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  • Valencia
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    Originally posted by flsghujslkuo
    ROG SCARRED

    But what may be of concern is that De Villiers has had to deal with so many injured players leading up to Saturday's game against the Six Nations champions.

    It is expected there will be changes in both front and back rows because of injuries, while Adrian Jacobs is also nursing a sprained foot.
    It's hard to predict just what De Villiers will do in the next 24 hours or so before he names his lineup on Thursday.

    Does he take a gamble with a changed front row, with John Smit at hooker, in this must-win match - to top the year off on a high - or does he stick with the same front row which has served him well for the most part of 2009?

    And does he consider BJ Botha, who hasn't been part of the Boks for two years but showed in Italy just how valuable he can be in the scrums?

    Ireland have picked rookie flyhalf Jonny Sexton for the clash, coach Declan Kidney deciding to leave the highly experienced Ronan O'Gara on the bench. Is he scared O'Gara is scarred after the Lions tour to SA? It was he, after all, who cost the Lions victory at Loftus Versfeld.

    Remember, he was the guy Jaque Fourie ran over to score in the right corner in the dying minutes of the match and it was he who took Fourie du Preez out of the air, which led to Morne Steyn's wonderful last gasp penalty.

    Is O'Gara scarred? And if so, what about the other Irishmen who were part of the Lions tour?




    Scarred? Appendicitus? Tonsils? maybe

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  • flsghujslkuo
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    ROG SCARRED

    Jacques van der Westhuyzen</font>

    </span></font>But what may be of concern is
    that De Villiers has had to deal with so many injured players leading
    up to Saturday's game against the Six Nations champions.



    It is expected there will be changes in both front and back rows
    because of injuries, while Adrian Jacobs is also nursing a sprained
    foot.

    It's hard to predict just what De Villiers will do in the next 24 hours or so before he names his lineup on Thursday.



    Does he take a gamble with a changed front row, with John Smit at
    hooker, in this must-win match - to top the year off on a high - or
    does he stick with the same front row which has served him well for the
    most part of 2009?



    And does he consider BJ Botha, who hasn't been part of the Boks for
    two years but showed in Italy just how valuable he can be in the
    scrums?



    Ireland have picked rookie flyhalf Jonny Sexton for the clash,
    coach Declan Kidney deciding to leave the highly experienced Ronan
    O'Gara on the bench. Is he scared O'Gara is scarred after the Lions
    tour to SA? It was he, after all, who cost the Lions victory at Loftus
    Versfeld.



    Remember, he was the guy Jaque Fourie ran over to score in the
    right corner in the dying minutes of the match and it was he who took
    Fourie du Preez out of the air, which led to Morne Steyn's wonderful
    last gasp penalty.



    Is O'Gara scarred? And if so, what about the other Irishmen who were part of the Lions tour?
    </span>




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  • Fresh Start
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    Originally posted by LeakyBoots

    If you ask me they should have
    gone for a beer if offered, the game has been played in
    that spirit and should continue to be, though I suspect it's
    rapidly disappearing.


    I remember an interview with Jason Leonard near his
    retirement when he lamented the lack of characters in the
    modern game and how so few of his opposite numbers
    would have a pint with him after the game.


    Poor form from POC/BOD if true.
    They were talking about a beer in the dressing room
    straight after the game. I'd say that's not the same as a
    beer in the bar after. Straight after the game the Lions
    would have been sorting out a truck load of things, having
    a beer in the Saffa dressing room wouldn't have been the
    most important thing (until the last test anyway).

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  • LeakyBoots
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    If you ask me they should have gone for a beer if offered, the game has been played in that spirit and should continue to be, though I suspect it's rapidly disappearing.


    I remember an interview with Jason Leonard near his retirement when he lamented the lack of characters in the modern game and how so few of his opposite numbers would have a pint with him after the game.


    Poor form from POC/BOD if true.

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  • Fresh Start
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    Well we're down to 4 candidates then, POC, Wally, ROG and
    BOD and if we're talking influence we're down to POC and
    BOD. And the simple fact that they were there to do a job not
    have a beer with the opposition.

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