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    The Irish media has wasted no time in trying to create the image of the Springboks as a team of thugs.

    It was a line consistently peddled by the travelling media during
    the British & Irish Lions series, despite a number of the Lions’
    indiscretions being blatantly overlooked, and one that has now
    continued ahead of Saturday’s Test at Croke Park.
    Irish independent columnist George Hook, offered this assessment
    of the Springboks. ‘Bully boy tactics are very much part of the
    Springbok game plan,’ he wrote.
    ‘The gouging of Luke Fitzgerald on the Lions tour was just a
    symptom of a style that relies on subjugating opponents. Bryan Habana
    may be an icon for his people but as we have seen not just in recent
    weeks but throughout his career, the speedster, like his team-mates, is
    not afraid to dish it out.

    ‘South Africa had a great tradition for physicality borne of the
    great Afrikaaner farming tradition. The struggles against New Zealand
    for the unofficial world championship in the heady days of amateur
    rugby were characterised by ferocious physical intensity. Sadly, under
    [coach] Peter de Villiers that has become a much more cynical rather
    than manly characteristic. To win, Ireland will need to display
    fortitude way above even that shown last week.

    There is of course plenty of bad blood between the sides dating
    back to the Lions series. In his recently published autobiography,
    Springbok skipper John Smit recounted how the Lions, under the
    influence of ‘a senior Ireland player’, declined the hosts’ invitation
    to have a beer together in the change room after their Test matches.
    Ireland centre Brian O’Driscoll also launched a scything attack
    on De Villiers for his refusal to acknowledge Schalk Burger’s guilt in
    the Fitzgerald incident, while No 8 Jamie Heaslip vehemently bemoaned
    the Springboks’ physicality after their defeat in the second Test at
    Loftus.
    The Irish Sunday Times ran the headline: ‘Best of Enemies’ –
    writer Peter O’Reilly also exhuming the Burger-Fitzgerald eye-gouging
    incident. O’Reilly quoted Ireland legend Fergus Slattery saying,
    ‘Because of his diet and his climate the average South African player
    has always been bigger than the average northern European, so the
    always use their physicality to try and beat the s**t out of you.’
    Hook was brazenly confident of an Irish victory, writing,
    ‘Ireland will win because the Boks are tired and have a creaking
    defensive system. On the other hand, [Declan] Kidney’s men have scores
    to settle, a set-piece to survive and the classiest backline in
    Christendom.’
    There was a more balanced approach from the Tribune’s Mark Jones,
    who identified openside flank Heinrich Brussow as the primary threat.
    ‘Short, squat and immensely powerful, he is the prototype
    openside for the way the breakdown is currently being refereed. South
    Africa may be suffering from some road burn as they come towards the
    end of their season, but their new poacher, has been a revelation,’ he
    wrote.
    ‘In the same way that [Wallaby openside] David Pocock, who has
    exceptional upper-body strength for a 21-year-old, stole some
    hard-earned possession last weekend, Brussow could wreak his own brand
    of havoc on Saturday, and Ireland don’t have anyone to rival him.

    ‘Neither David Wallace nor Denis Leamy, who started at openside
    against Australia and Fiji respectively, have the mindset of an
    out-and-out poacher. Wallace and Leamy may be outstanding players in
    their own right, but there is no mental image of them pinching the ball
    while they’re being exoceted by three or four opponents.

    ‘Just as Ireland were outmanoeuvered by Pocock, they can’t expect
    to dominate the breakdown against someone like Brussow. And while there
    was some evidence of risk-taking at Croke Park – even though none of it
    came to fruition – the tendency to favour the defender has also made
    players think twice before setting off on solo runs.
    ‘Brussow could make the difference even though, come to think of it, Ireland do have
    I am Flsghujslkuo, and I approved this message.

    #2


    Wonder who the senior Ireland player was...
    Marty in the Morning

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      #3


      (oh and that username must be b*tch to type in every time you come here [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img])
      Marty in the Morning

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        #4
        Originally posted by LeakyBoots


        (oh and that username must be b*tch to type in every time you come here [img]smileys/biggrin.gif[/img])


        you type in your username every time?
        The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad.
        - Salvador Dali (1904-1989)

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          #5
          I have it that whenever i go on Mfans I'm already in

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            #6


            Once I log in I'm there all day. But I've to relog in the following day. Doesn't bother me.
            Marty in the Morning

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              #7

              Originally posted by LeakyBoots

              Wonder who the senior Ireland player was...
              Seeing as O'Connell was captain i would imagine it was his call...

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                #8
                Well we're down to 4 candidates then, POC, Wally, ROG and
                BOD and if we're talking influence we're down to POC and
                BOD. And the simple fact that they were there to do a job not
                have a beer with the opposition.
                Did you play in the Garden of Eden?
                Were the goalkeeper\'s gloves to you tossed?
                For it seems to me you\'re the reason,
                You\'re the reason why paradise lost.

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                  #9


                  If you ask me they should have gone for a beer if offered, the game has been played in that spirit and should continue to be, though I suspect it's rapidly disappearing.


                  I remember an interview with Jason Leonard near his retirement when he lamented the lack of characters in the modern game and how so few of his opposite numbers would have a pint with him after the game.


                  Poor form from POC/BOD if true.
                  Marty in the Morning

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by LeakyBoots

                    If you ask me they should have
                    gone for a beer if offered, the game has been played in
                    that spirit and should continue to be, though I suspect it's
                    rapidly disappearing.


                    I remember an interview with Jason Leonard near his
                    retirement when he lamented the lack of characters in the
                    modern game and how so few of his opposite numbers
                    would have a pint with him after the game.


                    Poor form from POC/BOD if true.
                    They were talking about a beer in the dressing room
                    straight after the game. I'd say that's not the same as a
                    beer in the bar after. Straight after the game the Lions
                    would have been sorting out a truck load of things, having
                    a beer in the Saffa dressing room wouldn't have been the
                    most important thing (until the last test anyway).
                    Did you play in the Garden of Eden?
                    Were the goalkeeper\'s gloves to you tossed?
                    For it seems to me you\'re the reason,
                    You\'re the reason why paradise lost.

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                      #11

                      ROG SCARRED

                      Jacques van der Westhuyzen</font>

                      </span></font>But what may be of concern is
                      that De Villiers has had to deal with so many injured players leading
                      up to Saturday's game against the Six Nations champions.



                      It is expected there will be changes in both front and back rows
                      because of injuries, while Adrian Jacobs is also nursing a sprained
                      foot.

                      It's hard to predict just what De Villiers will do in the next 24 hours or so before he names his lineup on Thursday.



                      Does he take a gamble with a changed front row, with John Smit at
                      hooker, in this must-win match - to top the year off on a high - or
                      does he stick with the same front row which has served him well for the
                      most part of 2009?



                      And does he consider BJ Botha, who hasn't been part of the Boks for
                      two years but showed in Italy just how valuable he can be in the
                      scrums?



                      Ireland have picked rookie flyhalf Jonny Sexton for the clash,
                      coach Declan Kidney deciding to leave the highly experienced Ronan
                      O'Gara on the bench. Is he scared O'Gara is scarred after the Lions
                      tour to SA? It was he, after all, who cost the Lions victory at Loftus
                      Versfeld.



                      Remember, he was the guy Jaque Fourie ran over to score in the
                      right corner in the dying minutes of the match and it was he who took
                      Fourie du Preez out of the air, which led to Morne Steyn's wonderful
                      last gasp penalty.



                      Is O'Gara scarred? And if so, what about the other Irishmen who were part of the Lions tour?
                      </span>




                      I am Flsghujslkuo, and I approved this message.

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                        #12


                        Originally posted by flsghujslkuo
                        ROG SCARRED

                        But what may be of concern is that De Villiers has had to deal with so many injured players leading up to Saturday's game against the Six Nations champions.

                        It is expected there will be changes in both front and back rows because of injuries, while Adrian Jacobs is also nursing a sprained foot.
                        It's hard to predict just what De Villiers will do in the next 24 hours or so before he names his lineup on Thursday.

                        Does he take a gamble with a changed front row, with John Smit at hooker, in this must-win match - to top the year off on a high - or does he stick with the same front row which has served him well for the most part of 2009?

                        And does he consider BJ Botha, who hasn't been part of the Boks for two years but showed in Italy just how valuable he can be in the scrums?

                        Ireland have picked rookie flyhalf Jonny Sexton for the clash, coach Declan Kidney deciding to leave the highly experienced Ronan O'Gara on the bench. Is he scared O'Gara is scarred after the Lions tour to SA? It was he, after all, who cost the Lions victory at Loftus Versfeld.

                        Remember, he was the guy Jaque Fourie ran over to score in the right corner in the dying minutes of the match and it was he who took Fourie du Preez out of the air, which led to Morne Steyn's wonderful last gasp penalty.

                        Is O'Gara scarred? And if so, what about the other Irishmen who were part of the Lions tour?




                        Scarred? Appendicitus? Tonsils? maybe
                        Con Artist

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                          #13


                          Originally posted by flsghujslkuo
                          ROG SCARRED

                          But what may be of concern is that De Villiers has had to deal with so many injured players leading up to Saturday's game against the Six Nations champions.

                          It is expected there will be changes in both front and back rows because of injuries, while Adrian Jacobs is also nursing a sprained foot.
                          It's hard to predict just what De Villiers will do in the next 24 hours or so before he names his lineup on Thursday.

                          Does he take a gamble with a changed front row, with John Smit at hooker, in this must-win match - to top the year off on a high - or does he stick with the same front row which has served him well for the most part of 2009?

                          And does he consider BJ Botha, who hasn't been part of the Boks for two years but showed in Italy just how valuable he can be in the scrums?

                          Ireland have picked rookie flyhalf Jonny Sexton for the clash, coach Declan Kidney deciding to leave the highly experienced Ronan O'Gara on the bench. Is he scared O'Gara is scarred after the Lions tour to SA? It was he, after all, who cost the Lions victory at Loftus Versfeld.

                          Remember, he was the guy Jaque Fourie ran over to score in the right corner in the dying minutes of the match and it was he who took Fourie du Preez out of the air, which led to Morne Steyn's wonderful last gasp penalty.

                          Is O'Gara scarred? And if so, what about the other Irishmen who were part of the Lions tour?

                          Soft penalty dont think ROG scarred by that at all.
                          I am one of the 5 clowns woo hoo

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                            #14
                            i love this cost them the game bulls**t. I know and dislike ROG but to say he cost them a test is as much rubbish now as it was then. They were not winning the test and were not going to win it

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                              scarred?

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