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    Not sure if this has been started elsewhere but ..


    here's the stats from the Italy v France game at the weekend



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    <TD vAlign=top width=416><!- S BO -><!- S IANC -><A name=></A><!- E IANC -><!- S ITAB ->
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    <TD =statsTableRowLightGrey vAlign=top align=left width=8793>Italy </TD>
    <TD =statsTableRowLightGrey vAlign=top align=left width=8793>3-39 </TD>
    <TD =statsTableRowLightGrey vAlign=top align=left width=8793>France</TD></TR>
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    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>5</TD></TR>
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    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>4/5</TD></TR>
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    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>1/3 </TD>
    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>Penalty goals </TD>
    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>2/2</TD></TR>
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    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>0/0 </TD>
    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>Drop goals </TD>
    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>0/1</TD></TR></T></TABLE><!- E ITAB ->


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    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>2 </TD>
    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>Scrums Won </TD>
    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>8</TD></TR>
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    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>0 </TD>
    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>Lost </TD>
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    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>22 </TD>
    <TD =statsTableRow vAlign=top align=left width=8793>Lineouts Won </TD>
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    #2
    Their lineouts were really bad.
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      #3
      Ibanezand Sczarwicki are very poor throwers. They would be better off playing Seb Bruno who is a quality player than having those two 1st and 2nd.
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        #4


        Bruno has been called up to the french squad due toSczarwicki being injured.


        the french error count is quite high considering how poor the italians were. we managed to keep ours lower against a much better welsh side.

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          #5


          Originally posted by sewa
          Ibanezand Sczarwicki are very poor throwers. They would be better off playing Seb Bruno who is a quality player than having those two 1st and 2nd.
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          Any they've replaced Szarzewski with Bruno so they must be on to this. Monsieur Professor must post here too.

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            #6
            Originally posted by neiljung


            Originally posted by sewa
            Ibanezand Sczarwicki are very poor throwers. They would be better off playing Seb Bruno who is a quality player than having those two 1st and 2nd.
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            Any they've replaced Szarzewski with Bruno so they must be on to this. Monsieur Professor must post here too.

            Szarzewski is injured according to reports. The fact that Ibanez is picked ahead of either is a sure sign of Laportes insanity.


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              #7
              <DIV =LeadPara>PAUL O'Connell insists Ireland can up their performance for the big showdown against France. </DIV>
              <DIV =TailParas>O'Connell admitted after the 19-9 defeat of Wales that he was disappointed with the performance - but believes there were some positives to take from the victory as well. </DIV>
              <DIV =TailParas>"I don't know if we will take comfort that we haven't played to the best of our ability - we are disappointed more than anything,'' he said. </DIV>
              <DIV =TailParas>''We will go in next week knowing there is another gear. </DIV>
              <DIV =TailParas>"We will need to up the performance. Absolutely. But we would take the same result next week. It was three ties to nil. </DIV>
              <DIV =TailParas>"Sure we didn't play outstandingly well but we showed a lot of experience and dug in. We used our heads and won the game. </DIV>
              <DIV =TailParas>"The scrum felt great. There was a lot of talk from their side and from the media about the scrum but it was excellent. </DIV>
              <DIV =TailParas>''The boys were brilliant. I thought John Hayes was outstanding. The three guys - Rory, Marcus and John - were excellent. </DIV>
              <DIV =TailParas>"We have beaten Wales who were massively up for this game. They had the bulk of the team which won the Six Nations two years ago back for this. I'm happy with the result.'' </DIV>
              <DIV =TailParas>(c) 2007 Mirror Group Ltd </DIV>
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                #8


                Eddie happy with Croker surface
                <DIV =LeadPara>IT WAS the morning after a very difficult day before, but the Irish management team and players were all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed as they departed Cardiff yesterday for their Six Nations base in Killiney. </DIV>
                <DIV =LeadPara>Relief that an onerous assignment had been negotiated was the tangible reaction among all concerned but as quickly, it will be time to move on to Croke Park. Coach Eddie O’Sullivan has not only carefully studied the video of Sunday’s 19-9 victory over Wales but is already focusing on the next challenge. </DIV>
                <DIV =TailParas>"We’ve had a couple of runs at Croke Park and are very happy with the surface and the stadium," said O’Sullivan. "What it will be like in terms of atmosphere we don’t know because we’ve never been out there when the stadium was full. Strangely enough, one of the problems we encountered in the Millennium Stadium was the noise levels. </DIV>
                <DIV =TailParas>"We were wondering what the problem was with the line-out calls initially because we were up high and could talk away but when you got on the ground level, you couldn’t hear yourself think. Croke Park may be like that and we won’t know until we’re on the pitch. It could be an issue with the line-out calls." </DIV>
                <DIV =TailParas>It must have been less than reassuring for O’Sullivan over the past few weeks and months to read and listen to the adverse comments of many GAA officials and players about the suitability of the pitch for gaelic games but in fact the coach is extremely happy in that respect. </DIV>
                <DIV =TailParas>"It’s a very firm surface but it takes a stud and we had no difficulty with it on our two training spins there," he declared. "It’s a top-of-the-ground pitch. The Cardiff stadium is great but the pitch is heavy and you never come off a game there without feeling exhausted. Next Sunday could be exhausting as well but for a different reason. </DIV>
                <DIV =TailParas>"That might sound like it will favour France given their style of play but it will favour us as well. I don’t think we’ll want to slug things out any more. We’ll train again at Croker on Friday, with the captain’s run on Saturday, the same routine as at Lansdowne Road. Ronan O’Gara will also have ample time to work on his goal kicking." </DIV>
                <DIV =TailParas>The criticism about the French squad and the direction in which it was being led by the much criticised coach Bernard Laporte were more than a little muted after their crushing defeat of Italy in Rome. </DIV>
                <DIV =TailParas>"France will be very happy with the result against Italy and the way they controlled the game after the first 15 minutes," said O’Sullivan. "Our concern now is twofold. One is to see where we are with injuries. We have a seven day turn around, they have an extra day. The ball was in play a lot on Sunday and a lot of ground was covered so we’re a tired bunch. It’s now all about getting the balance right and forming a different game plan to take on the French. If we’re not more accurate in aspects of our game, then we’ll create an environment for them to run at us which is something we don’t want." </DIV>
                <DIV =TailParas>O’Sullivan spoke of how loose the game became and how "we weren’t tight enough in the first half in terms of kicking. A lot of our kicks weren’t on target and allowed them room to run back at us. </DIV>
                <DIV =TailParas>"Our discipline was a bit scrappy to start with and gave them quick taps which brought them into the game." </DIV>
                <DIV =TailParas>One of the big positives from Cardiff was how well the Irish scrum coped with the challenge presented by the Welsh: "We were never in trouble in the set pieces. We lost two line-outs out of 10 and took thre
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                  #9
                  Was it just me or were the lineouts better when Fla came on?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by LLCOOLJ14


                    "What it will be like in terms of atmosphere we don’t know because we’ve never been out there when the stadium was full. Strangely enough, one of the problems we encountered in the Millennium Stadium was the noise levels.
                    <DIV ="TailParas">"We were wondering what the problem was with the line-out calls initially because we were up high and could talk away but when you got on the ground level, you couldn’t hear yourself think. Croke Park may be like that and we won’t know until we’re on the pitch. It could be an issue with the line-out calls." </DIV>


                    I cant understand this statement....was he not in Cardiff 2 years ago on their Grand Slam weekend?Did he not hear how DK played the load music over the PA for the Munster team prior to the HC final? Seems bizarre that they were not aware of this?!?!?
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                      #11


                      Big two hit the ground running


                      On Rugby: The fear always lurked that England and France would awakefrom their autumnal slumber in time for their mouth-watering visits to Croke Park. Sure enough, the limitations of Scotland and Italy enabled the self-appointed big two to hit the ground running on the first weekend of the Six Nations. Now, not for the first time in the 2000s, already it is Ireland who seemingly stand in the way of the Anglo-French duopoly and suddenly not in the rudest of health either.
                      <DIV =LeadPara>Sterner tests ensure that more considered judgment of the big two's rejuvenation awaits. Scotland brought little to the Twickenham party other than braveheart spirit, resilient defence (though it was non-existent around the fringes) and the goal-kicking of Chris Paterson. Away from Murrayfield, against the bigger sides, that was never going to be enough. </DIV>
                      <DIV =TailParas>Italy brought even less in fluffing their lines from the off, and once they kicked away the opportunity for a six-point lead and conceded the first turnover try, the speed with which their heads seemed to drop was alarming. </DIV>
                      <DIV =TailParas>They were game enough to keep recycling the ball from deep, but they are not designed to play catch-up and while the match statistics will show that the Azzurri had more possession, more passes, more recycles and forced the French to make more tackles, their laboured running game was as those in the coaching fraternity are wont to say, a classic example of shovelling ****. </DIV>
                      <DIV =TailParas>The ponderous performances of scrumhalf Paul Griffen and either of their outhalves, Andrea Scanavacca and Ramiro Pez, hardly helped in asking any real questions of the French defence. </DIV>
                      <DIV =TailParas>Nevertheless there were ominously strong opening gambits by England and France and the catalyst for the Red Rose and indeed the Six Nations was undoubtedly Jonny Wilkinson. The thought occurred that some of the English newspapers should come with a government health warning over the subsequent two days and, for example, there were inevitably premature conclusions that the All Blacks and co would have to sit up and take notice. </DIV>
                      <DIV =TailParas>Furthermore, the BBC producers, cameraman and commentary team clucked over Wilkinson like a mother hen but you could readily understand why. After all, not only had their goal-kicking World Cup-winning hero not been seen for England since that dramatic final in Sydney in 2003, but his presence seemed to have an inspiring and comforting effect on team-mates and supporters alike. </DIV>
                      <DIV =TailParas>And, it has to be said, the return of Wilkinson (at something close to his best would be astonishing for most players, but not him) is not only good for England, but good for the Six Nations and the game in general. He is a magnet for fans and aspiring young players the world over, and perhaps referees also given the way Donal Courtney was swept away in the heady Twickenham excitement of Wilkinson's comeback. He has star quality, and the game needs its stars playing, not on an operating or physio's table. </DIV>
                      <DIV =TailParas>What must the watching Clive Woodward and Andy Robinson, particularly, have felt? Robinson made his selection errors (Brian Ashton's 11 changes were a commentary on that alone) and never quite convinced, but having a fully fit Wilkinson and an opening fixture against these Scots was more good fortune than he had in his entire reign. Aside from being a good coach, it looks as if Ashton may also have become a lucky one. </DIV>
                      <DIV =TailParas>Bernard Laporte went some way to silencing his critics, most notably Pierre Berbizier, temporarily at any rate, in Rome on Saturday. Amongst the increasing hum o
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                        #12
                        Ibanez is a better player thanBrunoas far as I can see. Ignoring the fact that they're not that far apart in age (less than 2 years), Bruno does'nt bring a huge amount extra in my opinion. His throwing has been found out on numerous occasions for example. Ibanez may not be the worlds best in this department, but, despite a dodgy technique, he usually hits the target. Can't see a huge differance in the loose either, both being quite mobile. Maybe scrummaging might be an advantage for Bruno, I'm not sure, what I do know is that Ibanez is a leader in the French team and commands a lot of respect.

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                          #13
                          Chabal isn't a lineout man. Harinordoquy is the option there but can't see him being picked ahead of Chabal at the moment.

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                            #14
                            From those stats it looks like Italy turned over a lot of ball, Bergamasco and Parisse were very good from what I remember of the match. Betsen was anonymous. I think our backrow could do a number on theirs although i would definitely consider bringing in Best to knock Chabal back early as he usually drifts out of the game if that happens. If we rule the breakdown France will only be able to score from mauls (which considering the state of their lineout are not a massive threat) or an irish mistake. Their defence did look very good in fairness but apart from canale and the other bergamasco Italy had nothing to offer in attack although Parisse made a lot of yards which Wallace and Leamy should pay attention to. All in all I think this match is definitely winnable.
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                              #15
                              Gerry Thornley mentioned last night that word in France is that Harry will be brought in for Chabal for the lineout option.
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