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    Ashton to be new coach

    Just heard on hte radio that Brian Ashton is to be comfirmed as new england coach today.
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    English rugby's elite director Rob Andrew will make his nomination to Rugby Football Union (RFU) bosses on Wednesday for approval.


    Ashton is poised to replace Andy Robinson, who was axed last month following a dismal run of results.


    Robinson lost 13 of his 22 games in the job and stood down after three days of talks with the RFU. <!- E SF ->


    Ashton, 60, joined up with England for a second time in May, along with forwards coach John Wells and defence guru Mike Ford, to help Robinson arrest England's decline since the 2003 World Cup.


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    But Robinson was axed following England's dreadful autumn Test series, during which they lost to Argentina, South Africa and New Zealand.


    Ashton was head coach of Ireland between 1997 and 1998 but a lacklustre spell of results saw him replaced by Warren Gatland.


    The Lancastrian then spent four years as a member of Sir Clive Woodward's England coaching staff before becoming the RFU national academy manager.


    He has also spent two periods at the helm of English Premiership side Bath.


    But former England skipper Will Carling has questioned whether the job is the right one for Ashton.


    "We need someone who is going to change the whole environment in which the England guys operate," he told BBC Sport. "And I don't think that is Brian.


    "Brian's strengths are as a coach, that is what he is great at.


    "It will get us through the Six Nations but part of me does worry that it is not the long term solution."


    Ex-England captain Phil de Glanville, who played under Ashton at Bath, said he is an outstanding coach - if he is left to get on with the job.


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    "He's a world-class coach (but) if it includes what Andy Robinson was doing, then that needs a manager," he said.


    "Brian's certainly the man to be leading the way England play.


    "But I don't know what the remit for Andy's replacement will be - what will his job involve exactly?


    "The liaison with the RFU and clubs is a big element of the job.


    "If that's still part of the job then it wouldn't be something Brian would enjoy. That's not where his strengths lie.


    "Brian enjoys pure coaching and if that's the role then there's no-one better."


    RFU chairman Martyn Thomas hopes a new head coach will herald a fresh era for the struggling world champions.


    "We have got to get back to winning on the field and that's what I want to focus on," Thomas told the RFU's website.


    "Rob is supremely qualified and I and the board have got every confidence in his ability to tell us what he wants and for us to support him.


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      What was Brian Ashton's record when he was the Irish coach it must have been a poor one because he was sacked

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        Originally posted by Cool - Cat
        What was Brian Ashton's record when he was the Irish coach it must have been a poor one because he was sacked

        no clue, but Gatland only had 2 bad games and he got the sack...


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          BBC sports ticket confirms the ex Irish coach as the new English coach...more to follow (their words, not mine !)

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            <div ="bull">Playing career: Scrum-half for Tyldesley, Fylde, Orrell, Monferrand, Roma &amp; Milan</div>


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            Former Bath and Ireland coach Brian Ashton has been appointed as England head coach with immediate effect.
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            Ashton has been promoted from his role as attack coach
            and will continue to work with forwards and defence specialists John
            Wells and Mike Ford.
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            "It's a massive privilege and honour to be asked to do the job," said Ashton.
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            "I recognise the challenges ahead and, along with the
            other coaches, my focus now is to prepare the England team to play
            Scotland in the Six Nations."
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            Speculation had suggested that Ashton's appointment was
            a short-term solution until another head coach or manager could be
            appointed, but the RFU has insisted this is not the case.
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            Ashton's appointment was unanimously agreed by the Rugby
            Football Union's management board after his name was put forward by
            director of elite rugby Rob Andrew.
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            The 60-year-old will be formally unveiled at a Twickenham news conference at 1600 GMT on Wednesday.
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            Andrew said he had no doubts about moving Ashton up to
            replace former head coach Andy Robinson, who resigned at the end of
            November after a dismal run of results.
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            Brian is the right man to lead the coaches and players into a new period for English rugby
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            "Brian is the most experienced coach in England, he has
            enormous respect with the players and he has massive international and
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              He must be mad to take that job on , I would'nt wish it on my worst enemy[img]smileys/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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                He failed with Ireland then with bath third time to mess up
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                  How did he fail with Bath exactly?



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                    MY bad
                    Didnt mean to say failed with bath he did very well with them
                    he is a good backs coach and will probley make the right selections unlike Robinson
                    but cant see him get the moral back into the squad
                    if he gets to pick a new supporting staff he has achance

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                      Well there's a suprise - not. Was he not the one who uttered the immortal line "I don't know who's game plan that was but, it's not mine" shortly before he parted company with the IRFU.
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                        Originally posted by McCloud
                        @@@@SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Well there's a suprise - not@@@@/SPAN>. Was he not the one who uttered the immortal line "I don't know who's game plan that was but, it's not mine" shortly before he parted company with the IRFU.
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                          Poor old Ashton, heis always just a year or two ahead of his time. He was a couple of years too early for the likes of BOD, ROG andHorgan etc with Ireland and now i think he'll be a year or two too early for the likes of Allen, Flood, Waldock, Cippriani etc.

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                            Provided they get a good forwards coach to replace Robbo, i actually think he may do a good job and be quite successful actually.


                            England are only a few good selections and moves from being a solid side again IMHO. The Brow &amp; centre selections this autumn were awful, on top of the RFU set Robbo up by forcing them to play 4 autumn matches when he could only select players for 3 of the 4 (cos the clubs didn't want players overplayed).


                            So effectively England lost to a resurgent SA, the ABs and Arg but we all know that the ABs are untouchable, SA are resurgent and Arg are a class outfit. He did this with only 3/4 of his players for each game by definition- it was a tall order.


                            If the new coach can steady the ship, select better at centre, back row and half back and let the team play a bit- they can beat Ireland- and we think we're the dog's bo***cks at the mo!!!


                            Do I think it will happen- no- but nonetheless it could.....
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                              Good to see that everybody is getting behind the new coach[img]smileys/wink.gif[/img]


                              English RFU defends Ashton appointment as head coach

                              12:20 Thursday December 21st 2006


                              The English Rugby Football Union is defending its appointment of former Irish boss Brian Ashton as the country's new head coach.
                              The appointment has attracted criticism from former England stars Jeff Probyn and Will Carling, who both say it is not a long-term solution to the World Cup champions' current woes.


                              However, the RFU's elite rugby director, Rob Andrew, insisted today that Ashton was the most experienced coach in England and was undoubtedly "the right guy to move England forward".



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