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    #46
    Originally posted by tickettout
    We don't get over the gainline anymore from 12 or 13. Darcy and Drico just don't have the step/pace that they did a few years ago.
    Both were dwarfed by their opposite numbers today - our backline looked very toothless all competition.Gaffney is taking alot of blame for this but we have two centres who are way past their best offensively.
    We also picked P Wallace as an option who can't get over the gainline and left the biggest centre we have out totally in Downey who could at least taken them on physically.

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      #47
      Dowlinz - I wouldn't move DOC on. I'd just start to give the nod to anyone who can make it a 50/50 call with him. I don't see anyone yet though.
      "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

      "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


      "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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        #48
        We need to find a bull for the centres, a mountain of a man. Maybe draft in James Downey for the 6 nations? or is that ship sailed
        I am the million man.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Balla Boy View Post
          Dowlinz - I wouldn't move DOC on. I'd just start to give the nod to anyone who can make it a 50/50 call with him. I don't see anyone yet though.
          Personally I thought Ryan showed enough to justify that.
          \"A million monkeys with a million crayons would be hard-pressed in a million years to create anything as cretinous as Battlefield Earth.\"

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            #50
            Originally posted by Cowboy View Post
            We need to find a bull for the centres, a mountain of a man. Maybe draft in James Downey for the 6 nations? or is that ship sailed
            I don't know, I think Fitz could work well there if someone took him aside and said "d'arcy is finished, you've all season to find your feet here" with Leinster. I'm not sure he has the composure for it, but that's true of any position in Int rugby, he can be headless.

            In addition to replacing Gaffney, the IRFU really need to ask Jason Holland for an honest progress report on he and the Munster backs are doing. Are guys like Earls, Barnes, Zebo etc actually improving?
            It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

            Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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              #51
              Tuohy?
              "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

              "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


              "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                #52
                Originally posted by Evil Omer View Post
                Personally I thought Ryan showed enough to justify that.
                I'd let him stake his claim at Munster - they're head to head in training often enough. If McGahan's allowed to give the stronger player the nod then it should happen naturally.

                My worry for Ryan is that if I were McGahan I'd play him at 6 to have three jumpers.
                "We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men" Edward R Murrow

                "Little by little, we have been brought into the present condition in which we are able neither to tolerate the evils from which we suffer, nor the remedies we need to cure them." - Livy


                "I think that progress has been made by two flames that have always been burning in the human heart. The flame of anger against injustice and the flame of hope that you can build a better world" - Tony Benn

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Balla Boy View Post
                  I'd let him stake his claim at Munster - they're head to head in training often enough. If McGahan's allowed to give the stronger player the nod then it should happen naturally.

                  My worry for Ryan is that if I were McGahan I'd play him at 6 to have three jumpers.
                  POM is a jumper too, so Ryan can be pushed up and let POM play 6/8.
                  It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

                  Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by McCloud View Post
                    With no AI's this season I'd guess we will not see many changes made to the squad in next years 6 nations.
                    After the debacle that was the last world cup that master coach (seems to some on here, not me the guy was a waste of time) EOS more or less stood still going into the 6N, the only upside to that was we saw the back of the man for which we should be eternally grateful.
                    We need to be bold and brave if we want to go forward. The useless coach that is Gatland (again according to some on here, not me rate the guy always have) has showed if you believe what you have is not good enough change it.
                    I am one of the 5 clowns woo hoo

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Evil Omer View Post
                      Thing is you keep talking about no replacement for x, someone needs to displace y but even when they've played poorly these guys couldn't get dropped if they paid Kidney to do it so how can someone replace them. Also people are expecting replacements to come in and be better than these guys straight away with no time to learn or develop and argue since they're not then they shouldn't be there. Other sides have the sense to recognise you need to develop players not sit there going no not good enough all the time and keep playing others too long.

                      You also seem to forget that central contracts control who plays at club level meaning there's no hope of the younger guys getting the place then either. Unless IRFU leads the way we will be fielding the same players for the next 2-3 years then moaning about no development.
                      Wasn't Murray displacing Stringer and TOL? Aren't both of those on central contracts?

                      To me the development and integration of young players in the Irish system has been relatively good since DK and I don't particularly think theres a problem in that department. Some folk here are too quick to want out with the old and in with the new. I wouldn't always assume the unknown news are inherently better than the existing olds.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by tickettout
                        Worse still is our no.8 Houdini being escorted into touch like a young fella being taken to the jacks on is first day of school. He seems to have lost all his power, no longer a force carrying ball.
                        Agree that was poor but shouldn't have been given the ball by Murray the 2nd time coming down a crowded blindside and the first time got hit well by Warburton who is a strong boy......beats getting nearly knocked into the middle of next week by a centre like one of our 2nd rows was :-)

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Aussiedub View Post
                          Agree that was poor but shouldn't have been given the ball by Murray the 2nd time coming down a crowded blindside and the first time got hit well by Warburton who is a strong boy......beats getting nearly knocked into the middle of next week by a centre like one of our 2nd rows was :-)
                          Oh please, Heaslip has been shocking since August and poor enough for Ireland since being redcarded against NZ. He has lost the ability to break the line like he used to, same as Leamy lost it etc. He's no long our best option for 8.
                          It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

                          Every plan I have is the best plan in the room. Everybody get quiet and listen to it, and everybody will win

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Aussiedub View Post
                            Agree that was poor but shouldn't have been given the ball by Murray the 2nd time coming down a crowded blindside and the first time got hit well by Warburton who is a strong boy......beats getting nearly knocked into the middle of next week by a centre like one of our 2nd rows was :-)
                            Murr had more than one TOL style flood the blindside moment this morning, they kept hammering up the tramlines with no effect. I'd also question why ROG didnt fix the blitz with a few chips over the top with Bowe and Keith coming round behind him for the chase. The more you think about the game the more frustrating it gets. Two of their Three tries were attributable to our switching off rather than excellent play, but thats not to take away from an excellent Wales this morning. The anthems were a dead giveaway, there was a distinct rabbit in the headlights look to our lads and the legs were bobbing 90. That 1000 yard stare was great while it lasted :(
                            I am the million man.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by JoeyFantastic View Post
                              Oh please, Heaslip has been shocking since August and poor enough for Ireland since being redcarded against NZ. He has lost the ability to break the line like he used to, same as Leamy lost it etc. He's no long our best option for 8.
                              JF no point when it all goes wrong its a Munster mans fault when it goes right its a Leinster mans fault. Thats does not bother me the gloating over Wallys injury is quite sickening though
                              I am one of the 5 clowns woo hoo

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by JoeyFantastic View Post
                                Oh please, Heaslip has been shocking since August and poor enough for Ireland since being redcarded against NZ. He has lost the ability to break the line like he used to, same as Leamy lost it etc. He's no long our best option for 8.
                                He isn't playing like any other 8 in the competition though.....He is spending more time playing like a 7 at the breakdown than as an 8.

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