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  • Daithi
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    Originally posted by whimpersnap View Post
    Farrell will make him captain surely. Which is frightening because two years ago he was sitting in a hospital bed and had barely played a professional game.
    Yes possibly, but can someone tell me has he actually captained many sides on his way up?
    his province yet?? Or had all this been dreamed up by a scribe writing for the D4 market.???
    (the same type who ushered about RK's great positional play or how he was 'safe' at the back...)

    I notice the same sources in the Dublin Mejia don't reference his previous captaincy experience in their gushing campaign to make him the anointed one....

    This Irish team already has a Lion's test captain in its ranks, (we don't have many of those ever in the history of the game), who is also one of their outstanding players & leaders,. He also captained Irish underage sides right through the representative ranks, including his province already, and Ireland on several occasions when Best was unavailable. He has a good bit more experience than Ryan & is a warrior that any player would follow into battle. This player & captain is POM.
    Last edited by Daithi; 22-October-2019, 05:43.

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  • whimpersnap
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    Originally posted by Spiffy View Post

    You forgot to mention James Ryan. The best player on the Ireland team and the only one who would remotely challenge for a spot in a World XV. This lad is a phemomenon. He can do everything a lock has to do and has an engine that lets him play the full 80 every game. He will only get better. He should be appointed captain right now and a team built around him for the next several years. I have no doubt he will go down as Ireland's best ever lock and must be pretty close already.
    Farrell will make him captain surely. Which is frightening because two years ago he was sitting in a hospital bed and had barely played a professional game.

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  • Finnegan79
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    Originally posted by lawrence View Post



    You may not be convinced that at one point Sexton was a better player, but some heavy hitters in world rugby were
    at one point convinced of it.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rug...10265?mode=amp
    They didn't want to give it to BB 3 years in a row; and if Sexton misses that drop goal in Paris, he doesn't get the award. He was not a better all around player in 2018. He had a great year, but I'll bet you anything if the people voting for that award had to choose between them to build a team around, even for just one season, they'd pick BB.

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  • Spiffy
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    Originally posted by lawrence View Post
    I don’t think there are a handful of players that can be happy with their contribution over the RWC. Furlong and Conway are the only ones that spring to mind. Earls and stocktake did nothing and nothing wrong, Chris Farrell, jordi and CJ are in the did ok camp and Ruddock probably raised his stock a bit. Henderson was quiet, Cian Healy has gone backwards, POM had moments in games but Henshaw and Bundee has more handling errors than anything else.

    As a group they have failed, but individually very few can be happy with their own performances.
    You forgot to mention James Ryan. The best player on the Ireland team and the only one who would remotely challenge for a spot in a World XV. This lad is a phemomenon. He can do everything a lock has to do and has an engine that lets him play the full 80 every game. He will only get better. He should be appointed captain right now and a team built around him for the next several years. I have no doubt he will go down as Ireland's best ever lock and must be pretty close already.

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  • whimpersnap
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    Originally posted by lawrence View Post


    Carbery is the obvious one to use at FB, but that was never tried, even put Sexton back there where he has less hits to take.

    The inability of our halfbacks and midfield to get our wingers into attacking play is a complete failure, and an embarrassing failure. Earls and Stockdale scored no try’s in the WC, and they didn’t look like doing it either.

    NZ, Japan and SA play to bring Reece, Kolbe, mampipi, Fukuoka etc etc into the game, where they can do damage and it always involves more than just the 10 playing the ball. LeRoux looks for skip passes to Kolbe, the Japanese are comfortable in a lot of areas to get the ball wide.
    I'm not sure how you can lament poor selection at full back and then propose Sexton, of all people. He has even less gas than Kearney and has never really excelled in the loose and is the opposite of the Barrett-like player who profits from extra space.

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  • whimpersnap
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    That was brutal. Best, sad to say, was a great servant but was one of a few not up to it. Suspect we might not see much more of Sexton in green either. Carbery and Scannell surely will be starting come the 6N.

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  • lawrence
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    Originally posted by Daithi View Post

    Okay, that's your opinion, but he's a huge improvement as a counter attacker, finisher and outside runner. Ireland may try to source a second play maker closer to the action I.e. @ 12 in time.

    Joey at 10 with Johnny at 12 or vice versa may be an option going forward maybe?!
    Yea right, Johnny and Joey defending runs from
    tuilagi or vakatawa would end well alright.

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  • jagawayagain
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    Originally posted by Daithi View Post

    Okay, that's your opinion, but he's a huge improvement as a counter attacker, finisher and outside runner. Ireland may try to source a second play maker closer to the action I.e. @ 12 in time.

    Joey at 10 with Johnny at 12 or vice versa may be an option going forward maybe?!
    I want to see both joey and Johnny price their fitness by starting at least half a dozen in a row and playing 60 mins + before planning anything around them. We’ve sort s year sinking slowly while waiting to see Sexton play consistently like the Johnny of old. I can’t see the point in doing so any longer.

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  • Daithi
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    Originally posted by lawrence View Post

    He’s not an improvement in terms of being a playmaker. He’s obviously faster and doesn’t get stripped in contact all the time, but he’s not got that footballing playmaking ability
    Okay, that's your opinion, but he's a huge improvement as a counter attacker, finisher and outside runner. Ireland may try to source a second play maker closer to the action I.e. @ 12 in time.

    Joey at 10 with Johnny at 12 or vice versa may be an option going forward maybe?!

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  • kahalui
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    Originally posted by BigLad View Post

    The irony is though that what Munster used do under fla. run in to contact repeatedly in the red zone until we cough the ball up.
    From underage up... no matter how much you work on improving your skill set when you're in your twenties, you'll never be as proficient as someone who's been doing it since they were a teenager, or younger.

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  • lawrence
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    I don’t think there are a handful of players that can be happy with their contribution over the RWC. Furlong and Conway are the only ones that spring to mind. Earls and stocktake did nothing and nothing wrong, Chris Farrell, jordi and CJ are in the did ok camp and Ruddock probably raised his stock a bit. Henderson was quiet, Cian Healy has gone backwards, POM had moments in games but Henshaw and Bundee has more handling errors than anything else.

    As a group they have failed, but individually very few can be happy with their own performances.

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  • lawrence
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    Originally posted by Daithi View Post

    https://images.app.goo.gl/u46u7LgihuLzifbcA

    Ah jeez Lawrence, come off the whiskey & wake up to the real world. Larmour is such an upgrade over the Rob Kearney of 2019 that it's not even funny that RK was selected ahead of him.

    He's far faster, fitter, & younger and offers a (much better) attacking option, while visibly improving with every game at international level. Not selecting him or Conway at 15 @RWC19 was a travesty imho.
    He’s not an improvement in terms of being a playmaker. He’s obviously faster and doesn’t get stripped in contact all the time, but he’s not got that footballing playmaking ability

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  • BigLad
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    Originally posted by kahalui View Post

    Flannery is spot on. Skills need to be prioritized throughout Irish rugby, from underage systems up.





    The irony is though that what Munster used do under fla. run in to contact repeatedly in the red zone until we cough the ball up.

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  • RED 49
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    We all wanted the team to win the world cup ,no doubt Joe schmidt and the players wanted it more than even us .
    what it comes down to is preparation and luck ,we didnt have much luck but we were so lacking in preparation and in this facet schmidt has to shoulder the blame or else it's the players who didnt do as was planned.
    Our back play for the last year or 2 has been appallingly bad ,a good junior coach could dismantle or defend against it ,as for the Johnny Sexton loop and having things up our sleeve ,give me patience
    Last edited by RED 49; 21-October-2019, 18:21.

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  • kahalui
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    Originally posted by Cowboy View Post
    If Wales turned over the ball with a 3 man overlap inside their own 22 they have the latent running game to finish it off, if Ireland turned over the ball with a 3 man overlap you can nearly be sure one of those three men will seek contact.

    The one time it did occur was against Italy in the 6N with Zeebs Earlsy and JHeaz all involved (IIRC)

    I think that latent running and skills game needs to be readministered
    Flannery is spot on. Skills need to be prioritized throughout Irish rugby, from underage systems up.






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