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    #61
    Originally posted by Daithi View Post
    REF ABSOLUTELY RIDING US!!

    WTF his name Angus is , he is a total home towner fuppin clown !!!
    Nothing new there with that ref. He did the same in Cardiff in the 6Nations

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      #62
      Originally posted by ormond lad View Post
      I dont know but Alain Rolland etc in world rugby didnt pick her for good reason. Just not as good as those picked yet anyway
      Your after stating 5 times that she isn’t good enough for a role as AR at international level, and your only reason for that is that she wasn’t picked because she wasn’t picked. Insightful stuff.

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        #63
        Originally posted by lawrence View Post

        Your after stating 5 times that she isn’t good enough for a role as AR at international level, and your only reason for that is that she wasn’t picked because she wasn’t picked. Insightful stuff.
        She’s not experienced enough yet. A bit more time in the middle required at Pro14 and HEC level before she gets AR gigs in the biggest international competition there is.

        It’s not a slight on her and I have no doubt she’d jump at the chance but I don’t think she’s proven herself enough yet in high pressure situations. There are stepping stones and I hope she gets some big fixtures in the coming season so she can do so.

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          #64
          Originally posted by lawrence View Post

          Your after stating 5 times that she isn’t good enough for a role as AR at international level, and your only reason for that is that she wasn’t picked because she wasn’t picked. Insightful stuff.
          Similar to the NZ players and management saying that they didn't overstep the line because if they did, they would have been pinged.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Piquet View Post

            Similar to the NZ players and management saying that they didn't overstep the line because if they did, they would have been pinged.
            Similar as in the earth is round and so is mars.

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              #66
              Originally posted by lawrence View Post

              Your after stating 5 times that she isn’t good enough for a role as AR at international level, and your only reason for that is that she wasn’t picked because she wasn’t picked. Insightful stuff.
              Not experienced enough yet. Good enough for international level but not selection at a world cup yet but if progression is same over time then she will be a cert at next world cup

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                #67
                Owen Doyle says in today's Irish Times:

                "Nothing referee Angus Gardner did or didn't do affected the result. That's important to state"

                and

                "Japan persistently put players past the breakdown, obstructing, holding onto, and taking out Irish Players. I lost count of the number of times that the Irish poacher was taken out illegally"

                Surely there's an inconsistency here.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Piquet View Post
                  Owen Doyle says in today's Irish Times:

                  "Nothing referee Angus Gardner did or didn't do affected the result. That's important to state"

                  and

                  "Japan persistently put players past the breakdown, obstructing, holding onto, and taking out Irish Players. I lost count of the number of times that the Irish poacher was taken out illegally"

                  Surely there's an inconsistency here.
                  Japan stayed in the game with their converted 3 of 4 kickable penalties in the 1st half.

                  Ireland were awarded no kickable penalties to stem Japan's momentum from the 30th minute of the game.

                  Owen Doyle as an ex-Ref would like to infer that Referee's have no influence on final results even if they are poor, he fails to see the sum of a Referee's on field decisions does determine the result
                  Nulla semper amicus, servivit mihi, in iniuriam mihi neminem quem non persolvi

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Sulla View Post

                    Japan stayed in the game with their converted 3 of 4 kickable penalties in the 1st half.

                    Ireland were awarded no kickable penalties to stem Japan's momentum from the 30th minute of the game.

                    Owen Doyle as an ex-Ref would like to infer that Referee's have no influence on final results even if they are poor, he fails to see the sum of a Referee's on field decisions does determine the result
                    I think he is being careful.. Japan applied cerrain tactics that they got away with. Japan were the better team and wanted it more which counts for a lot. There were a few things that AG did or didn't do that favoured the home team and we didn't have the composure or Ninga to counter. AG is now part of that big result.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Piquet View Post
                      Owen Doyle says in today's Irish Times:

                      "Nothing referee Angus Gardner did or didn't do affected the result. That's important to state"

                      and

                      "Japan persistently put players past the breakdown, obstructing, holding onto, and taking out Irish Players. I lost count of the number of times that the Irish poacher was taken out illegally"

                      Surely there's an inconsistency here.
                      Of course there is. Nobody wants to be accused of sour grapes etc.

                      Definitely contributed to the result imho. As GnT put it:

                      Also it seemed as if referee Angus Gardner became a little swept away in the occasion. In a 9-3 penalty count, the tally at the breakdown was 5-2 even though their entry gate included two side doors as well and, risibly, it was 3-0 for offsides. He seemed to be managing Japan, and refereeing Ireland.

                      Would we have won with another ref? I don’t know, but I do think the penalty count should have been more even.

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                        #71
                        interesting call in Scots v Samoa. YC + PenTry against Fidow forsliding tackle to prevent Maitland in the corner
                        The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad.
                        - Salvador Dali (1904-1989)

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Upfront_1979 View Post
                          interesting call in Scots v Samoa. YC + PenTry against Fidow forsliding tackle to prevent Maitland in the corner
                          Hard to know what else he could have done- massive effort for the guy to get across, but there was only one outcome if he made contact with his knees.

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Upfront_1979 View Post
                            interesting call in Scots v Samoa. YC + PenTry against Fidow forsliding tackle to prevent Maitland in the corner
                            Fair call. Came in knees first.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Upfront_1979 View Post
                              interesting call in Scots v Samoa. YC + PenTry against Fidow forsliding tackle to prevent Maitland in the corner
                              Could only have been a yellow and penalty try.

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                                #75
                                According to the Indo, World Rugby has confirmed that three of the penalties against Ireland (two for offside) were incorrect calls. Unusual to hear that but maybe this is part of a new, more transparent approach.

                                Combine that with the leniency shown to Japan around the breakdown and it paints quite a picture.

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